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Pat was silenced

and I'm concerned that she may not feel comfortable posting again. I think her motives were good. In fact, earlier she was complimented for the creativity of her questions, so that may have encouraged her to post them more often. Imagine the shock of being publicly criticized for doing the very same thing. I'm just trying to put myself in her position.

Perhaps instead if she had been emailed privately and asked to limit her curiosity questions to a couple times a week, would that have been better received? I'd like to think about how we can be more considerate of each other, realizing that we all make mistakes.

Live and let live

Look I get annoyed with people frequently, and some of Pat's posts were inane as all get out, but who cares?? The only problem is with the board format and that sometimes people just need to post under the respective threads rather than just wanting to see their reply at the top, which Pat hardly ever did. It actually seems to me she made the board more active at times. Hell I missed a few dogs I loved to see passing away and let it go, so Pat come back and do your thing! Also, if you have issues, kindly address them, don't wait until you have pent up anger and lash out. I love the way Julia handled look at me dude, for example.

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built a custom importer for me once happy.gif

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onslowsmom's picture

It's over and done with

no hard feelings, can't we all just get along? =)

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LMAO ! They send farts every day !! :) :) (eom)



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how can I subscribe???

I laughed one day until my sides hurt. I forget which one it was. It certainly brightened my day

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the manner in which it was done

was not appropriate. You should have emailed her privately. I thought it was immature and it's sad people don't think much about the feelings of others, even if it is online.

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Julia's picture

Vbulletin has been around for YEARS... yes.

But it's not going to switch to a vBulletin. It's just not. happy.gif It's a lovely thought, but it's not going to switch.

I AGREE with you Dave, on all points. I've used message boards since the days of BBSes and SysOps... happy.gif LOL! I agree this format leaves a lot to be desired. But it's not going to change. There is so much history here and it would all be GONE because it would not be able to import.

Simple as that. happy.gif

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It definitely makes viewing easier and "manages itself" as you s

So people can ignore those threads they aren't interested in much easier!

Geez...

If I've hurt Pat's feelings, sorry. But the fact that a lot of people were feeling like I was and me being 'dumb' enough to actually post what I felt...I'm guessing this post was directed to me. But like people have said before...this is the same as when people were posting the 'bully talk'. You picked one side or the other, no one said to stop, just tone it down. That's all we were asking her to do was TONE IT DOWN. One topic/question a day would've been great! But the fact that she was calling me out saying that I was a lurker made me want to defend myself that yes, I've become a lurker because I felt as though the board was being dominated by a single person. Why is it bad for someone to post on here saying what a person doesn't like to see without making it seem like they're the bad guy? I don't mind being called the bad guy....I'll just hide and wait for someone to tell me to come back too I guess.

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Bully talk

Ozzy and Onslow have daily banter in Private FaceBook emails. They send each other farts every day. Ozzy is hilarious and I enjoy him so very much. =)

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Dave and Zapper's picture

That's the beauty of vBulletin Tracey, the board runs itself bec

the post people are interested in stay at the top. Another great thing is you can create categories and sub forums and everything is on one page.

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not trying

to change anything here. Just pointing out that when I have an important post and it gets buried I simply re-post it, time permitted.

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Ok Cathy just wondering

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B_Tracey's picture

I hope Pat returns.

I guess I was one of those "bandwagon jumpers" and in no way was it intended to bully Pat off the board. This board is BY FAR the friendliest, easy-going board I've participated in.

I think Pat's topics were interesting, as I find most of the posts. I just think it's a case of everything in moderation (including picture days). Everyone should feel a part of the board.

I did appreciate Pat always being one of the first to comment on everyone's pictures/posts and valued her greatly for that.

I think it takes more effort to respond than to start a thread (especially when I'm trying to sneak it in at work!).

So Pat if you're reading this come back and hopefully we all will respect the views of others and share the board.

it is a good solution

that could work with any posts.

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CathyandZimmer's picture

No...

there is absolutely no plans to add any more forums to BDW. The rules regarding rescue posts will not change.

Cathy & Zimmer

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they were quickly getting buried

and very few people were responding so I stopped posting them. They were just getting buried so quickly and often I didn't have the time to re-post them.

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it is sad....

i joined in the conversaion when i wanted and skipped when i didnt...just like many us...alot of people joined in pats fun..and alot skipped it....her cat one was funny and look at all the response and pictures....
i think some comments were a tad hard...and may have hurt feeling...hopefully she will overcome and come back....
i dont post alot....and some times i post alot...but this has made me nervouse...as should i? am i steping on anyone toes? with my replys?
well hopefully pat will rejoin us in good spirits....

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That's a really good solution!

=)

'Twas not my lips you kissed
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Pam it doesn't seem like the other rescue forum gets much traffi

I wonder if there is a way to have the rescue forum as part of BDW (like the medical and show forum) so more non rescue people can read more rescue stories.

People love the rescue stories Pam

Especially the happy ending stories. Please don't stop posting those. It reinforces the positive impact of good rescue groups.

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RE:picture thread

I totally agree... if somebody posts a "sleeping picture"... post yours below... much easier to comment on too! (new here too, now ya have 4cents LOL)

~Kellie and Chloe~
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I've wondered why the board was "styled" this way as well.

Most other forums I've been too keep "active" posts on the top (those with responses) and the non-active posts get buried.

So for example if someone started a question thread that others weren't interested in if no one responded it went away.

If someone started a picture thread and people kept responding with pictures it would stay at the top and you would only see the original title of the thread so more would fit on the front page.

Very similar to how this forum appeared one day when it was "broken."

Again, just my two cents, but that type of format would allow those to ignore threads they weren't interested in much easier and keep important/new ones in view.

me too

very funny stuff. I wish I was that creative.

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bully talk

Is this why we don't see Ozzy-Onslow talks much anymore? I thought they were very entertaining.

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I can see where you're coming from... I love picture days, but..

I think that with everyone starting a new thread with their pictures important things do get pushed down.

Because of the style of the forum, it would almost be better IMO if a picture day thread was started if people responded to that thread with their pictures instead of all the new threads.

However, I'm new and this is just my two cents.

Thanks Lisa

it is good to get this stuff out there. Rescue can post on Sat. too. I don't think there is as much traffic on Sat. so not as many people can read about them. I've basically given up trying to post rescue posts here unless its for a bully in dire need. Then I'll post and re-post later if I have time. Fri and Sat are usually very busy days for rescuers everywhere. We're usually either picking one up, transporting, taking them to the vet, doing homes checks or doing introductions and placements. The timing in general is because the majority of people are off the weekends and that when you have time to do this work.
Thank you fr being thoughtful. happy.gif

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Re: I brought this up a long time ago and was more or less told

dave, is the same as the chinese crested forum i belong to?

http://www.chinesecrestedcrush.com/phpBB2/index.php

I stisk to my opinion I think you are one of the nicest people o

and I can't wait to meet you in person.

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May I say

that you were very kind in your response to Pat. My thoughts are in no way aimed at you.

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Well...

I was one to offer my opinion on the matter.

I absolutely never directed for anyone to leave. In fact, I encouraged Pat to share more of her personal stories with us, my exact words were 'keep it coming.'

It seems as if my comments ticked some of you off, and I apologize, but I would also like to point out that everyone's opinions matter. We don't always have to agree with every person on the board. It's too hard, hey I've tried! happy.gif

Pat seems like a very nice person, and I will apologize for any hurt feelings.

I do stick to my opinion that no one person should tie up the board, and that is NOT directed at Pat. I would say that if I tied up the board. You would all be sick of it. And it is your right to be annoyed.

Thanks for listening...


Always in my heart...
Our Tillie

no one wanted her to leave

but so many times there were three or four posts right in a row. the board lost it's natural flow throughout the day. She was very good with posting a topic or a theme for the day and that was fun but some days got to be three different themes. it was just getting to be too much.

I agree too

I know it would have hurt my feelings too.

onslowsmom's picture

There's no reason we can't be mindful

of rescue posts on rescue day. You guys only have one day, we could all tone it down on Friday so posts don't get lost. =) See, this is good for us to talk about, I didn't know you felt that way. =)

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on the topic of posts being buried

I've had some of the same issues with Fridays being one of the days that rescuers can post about the bullies they have in. It seems like when I would post about our rescues then there would be one of the posts asking for special pics of everyones bullies, like smiles, roast beef............ ect. And the post for rescue always got buried. I either re-posted it or just let it get buried. So my point would be if its an important post then maybe the poster could re-post. I like reading all the posts on the board, I in no way read them all, I just don't have the time. And I really love the funny, special pics. Its one of the things that attracted me to this board. I've drawn so much from all the questions that have been posted. This board has helped many a bulldog and bulldog owner.

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I brought this up a long time ago and was more or less told to m

but this is a very, very old format of a bulletin board system.

I for one would like to see BDW go to an updated format where messages are stacked according to responses. Here's an example:http://www.sierrachart.com/supportboard/forumdisplay.php?f=94

I owned and ran a board in this format for 5 years and once you get used to it you'll never wanna see anything else.

Just my opinion.

dave

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Agreed

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onslowsmom's picture

It was manner that it was said

that bothered me. I know nobody asked her to leave but they could have been a little bit more kind in explaining how they feel.

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Pat was most definitely not asked to leave

She and I have spoken through e-mail and I am going to follow up with her today to see how she feels. I too hope she chooses to return.

But i think that was directed at a lot of people and this

was directed at one person... if i was Pat i'd probably think hard about coming back... but i hope she does...

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no one asked pat to leave

just to tone down the questions. this isn't so different from the issue a while back with the 'bully talk'. some members were concerned that quality posts were being lost in the long threads of bully talk. the bully talk didn't go away, but it was significantly toned down, and everyone was happy.



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I am sure she is wonderful person but I guess if someone

felt that I was posting too much. I would have had a different reaction. Please if I do something that upsets anyone or say something that upsets anyone. Please tell me. I will apologize and try not to do it again. And then move on. I guess that is my normal reaction to life. I am not perfect. No one is perfect. We all make mistakes and we all do things that irk people everyday. Everyone should own up to their actions. Pat if I offended you I am sorry it was not done to run you off the board. Email me if you want and we can talk about it.

I agree with Tx

We are adults and have the freedom to read what we want too and leave the rest. Pats is a great contributor to the board, my opinion only. Some really great questions that have generated so many smiles, laughs, from the pictures that have been posted in some of the response, as well as new knowledge and things I've not thought about. I do hope Pat will return and post all the great topics generating ideas and sharing. We've all been here before.

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Kel1h2k's picture

PAT COME BACK

I was wondering where she was... as usual, I missed whatever happened. Anyway... I agree, if you don't want to read or participate in a question posted, move on...
I love this board and the people on it... and I think we ALL can learn SOMETHING from each other.


~Kellie and Chloe~
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Sometimes posts did get lost in the shuffle, but....

even on a slow day lots of people just read posts, they don't always answer them. That doesn't mean they are lost in a shuffle, just maybe not what people want to post back to. If Pat's posts were well received so much so that lots of people posted back, isn't that a good thing?! I thought a lot of her questions were fun and interesting, and we got to learn more about each other as well as our crazy, furry, four legged friends:-)

I feel badly about what happened. Wish we could all just live and let live at times.

Amy and Sophia

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Well said Judy.

I agree. I hope Pat will return, questions and all.

Amy and Sophia

NoelleLee23's picture

i agree.

so ridiculous. Very grammar school of everyone to bully her away like that. Nobody said you had to read every post....you don't like it...skip it...

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luvwinnie's picture

I admit i had been one of the ones to be annoyed with

all of the questions because I felt other posts got "lost" in the shuffle, but I didn't want her to leave certainly! I feel really bad. She seems like a nice person.

onslowsmom's picture

I feel horrible about what was said to Pat

I hope people are happy, to have run another person off the board.

Last time I checked nobody owned stock to bdw. Obviously I'm feeling angry about the matter.

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