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I want this guy so bad I can taste him and it tastes
really rotten.

Yes I was Hoping Cody would be with someone we all knew on the board. But if it was meant to be it will.
But to know he does not have to spend one more nite out-side alone and is Loved right now is worth I whole lot more to me...And some wonderful people in rescue if he goes there will love him too.

...for his medical needs I'll be there to help too! I trust Ce to know what is best for this little guy and will be there to help do whatever I can.

that we are just creating nice business for those lowlifes....
We were committed to Cody as Ce had already "bonded" with him...
But we cannot, MUST NOT make a habit out of "rescuing" dogs from millers, by paying them SO VERY MUCH money...
All that will accomplish in the long run, is to finance those bastards business and they will keep abuse more dogs and create more and more puppies that they don't care for or about.
It is hard to look the other way and be strong, once you "know" the dog, like Ce did with Cody...so we got him out and now we will have to get him on the mend...and we will.
But we have to concentrate and pour all efforts into SHUTTING down those scumbags...I bet that bastard is laughing all the way to the bank, while his dogs are shivering and suffering out in the elements...its sickening!!
Lu

her opinion is valued on this board is the reason I think that it made the difference. And yes, I would still have donated the money to Cody even if going to rescue. Cody wasn't just any rescue, he has sired 2 bullies on this board so in a way he was already a part of our lives thru his pups even if it was in a removed way. And it is no one fault that Cody is not going to the home that was agreed upon. It was because of unforseen circumstances that this was not able to happen. No one knew how horrible his situation really was.

If I have the money I will send to help any animal no matter where they are going as long as they go somewhere better then were they were. When I talked to my family about giving money I did not say Cody was going anywhere I just said there is a dog on the board that we need to send money for to help and they said lets do it...They never ask where the dog was going they just wanted him out of where he was....So for me I do buy it.....and I would buy it again.

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Ce is not even home. The vet has not seen him yet. Everybody needs more information on what obstacles he has yet to face medically.

I see a person familiar with rescue as a person who may have the time, knowledge, contacts, and be in contact with organizations who have some resources to help the dogs.

I really respect Kristae as being mature enough to know when he was worse than she could handle. That took courage.

Ce has him now and will take him to the vet tomorrow. I sent more money to Paypal tonite to help pay for all of the meds he will get tomorrow. Think oral antibiotics, ear meds, eye meds, worm tablets. I am sure there will be more.

You take a shot at me for no reason and you will get one back.

Now is not the time to mess with me.

And that would include you.

Go back to your movies...

This guy defends you and our country by being a marine, and you say he shouldn't be one just because he doesn't agree with you about a dog.

Get real and get your priorities straight.

no one passed over Cody..he is still in my care...and hopefully will be placed in the right home ..but he needs healing and lots of it...and it isn't going to be inexpensive...
.kristae didn't say oh he's dirty or oh I don't want him..there was alot of real heart cracking emotions between all the folks involved at every stop of the way today..it wasn't that he wasn't the perfect pupster or the bullie fantasy.....it is that he will need special care...and she was wise enough to know that was beyond her and bullie knowledge..and it was "I" who suggested she not take him...unless you were there..and shed the same tears of heartcrackings and total and complete agony for Cody ..and having to make the best choices for him with few options at hand...in the most severest of weather conditions I might add..please don't Judge...what is needed now is prayers that Cody's quest and miracle are obtained...so please don't make snap judgements...we are all doing the best we know how...ce

For correcting my 1 word that was spelled wrong.

I have no problem with the rescue and am glad he will hopefully be going to a good home.

My point is, things probably would have been ALOT different if this was the plan from the begining, instead of him going to home a home of someone on the board that people know.

...maybe you shouldn't be!!

I think that your post was inapproprate at best and downright mean at worst. Your implication that those who are supporting Kristae's and Ce's decision is some sort of "party line" insults everyone on this board. Are you such a cynic that you can't trust your fellow bulldogers? This is a time to double our support for this kind of rescue effort. Shame on you.

You said, "I am not a blind sheep that follows the heard like 90% of the people on this board..."

I suspect that you meant "follows the herd like 90 percent..." and not "follows the heard..."

I understand that you are upset, but that's no reason to be so difficult and unpleasant.

I'll tell ya' what, Dirk – you tell me how much you donated and, I assume, want back, and I'll cover your expense. I don't have a lot of money, but I'll figure a way to come up with it. I'm sure something can be worked out with Ce. But, if you're ok with Cody's rescue from these horrible people despite the change of plans, then you can just let it ride. OK?

Yes, this is a tricky moral problem. Do we rescue a poor abused bullie with ransom money that benefits the abuser? It's a tough call, but I figure it's like the dog's needs to be taken from these people now, before it's too late. After Cody's safe, then we can begin our campaign to stop these people and all those like them.

If I offended Kristae? I don't.

And I stand by that post still. You really think a $1000 dollars would have been raised for a dog that was only to have problems like fleas, etc if there wasn't a home set up for him to go to? You are kidding yourself if you think it would have happened.

I am not a blind sheep that follows the heard like 90% of the people on this board that just say " oh how cute" or "oh how sad" or "you did the right thing", etc...

I have a hard time beleiving that over 1,000 dollars would have been raised in a matter of days if people knew Cody was going to go to a rescue org instead of
someone they knew on the board.

That someone took offense to that statement. KRISTAE.
And the money was raised in a day not days

And your post says nothing about what I said, so quit putting words in my mouth.

exactly what my post said. He was more than you expected so you "pass him along" to someone else. Is that pretty much the way it is?

I gave money to save a living breathing being that was being mistreated and understand that 3 months went by from the time Ce saw him. I know I understand that A LOT can happen in 3 months. I also understand that due to the terrible situation that this dog was in that the AGREED upon person was GROWN UP enough to know that this was not a situation that she was capable of handling.
YOU on the other hand are upset because money that you donated (IF YOU REALLY DID)to remove this dog from his horrific conditions,removed him but didn't want him to get the care and attention that he was denied his first 5 years of life. And laying a guilt trip on the person who was mature enough to know that she wasn't experienced enough to take this on.
Who is the grown up?

Unbelievable. Read on...

Cody picture question....hehe....
by Cole & Deb

Very serious question here...

Since we are running the first "leg" of the journey...does that mean we get to post the first pics of Cody?? We will, after all, get home before anyone else...and..umm...we know all the other members of Cody's new extended family will be waiting to see him....
Posted on May 9, 2003, 3:53 PM

"Maybe bulldogworld can pool together to help more dogs on an ongoing basis. Or maybe start a relief fund for situations like this....to help people like Kristae, who are willing to provide a home to a homeless dog by giving some funds (don't know about providing the full $1000, even getting a dog through rescue requires the adopting parents to cough at least $300, in other words....adopting isn't free). Does this make sense? Is this something we'd be willing to entertain?"
Posted on May 9, 2003, 11:27 AM

I am just voicing my displeasure.

and grow up. You must not post on any other message boards since about 90% of them people don't use their names.

hide behind a phony one.

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Does that make a difference?

1st you all complain about 1 thing and then when someone does it, it is not good enough now?

Just look at the thread. Half of you are complaining about a name rather then talking about the dog.

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the jerk that was selling him --sure like he is going to just say here you can have him.....did you put up money??????
the ones here that did are just happy he is out of there let it rest.

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after I verify it with Ce.....

"The more I know people, the more I love my bulldogs."

Could have been put in the hands of a rescue org by simply making a few phone calls, not giving the guy a 1000 dollars.

don't defend yourself for your decision. YOU were willing to give him a home not a barn. YOU were willing to kiss and touch him not let him lay on a hard floor. You were not able to read into the future and see that his situation was much worse than figured upon.

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How can you see the pictures of this Cody guy and even question the fact that the best thing was done by putting him in the hands of professional rescue folks? Abuse of this magnitude must be documented by professionals so that someone can take the appropriate action and rid society of the SOB that allowed a bully in his care to deteriorate as it has. Crawl back into your hole and let those folks with compassion for our bullies thake care of this matter.

"The more I know people, the more I love my bulldogs."

Atleast put a name in instead of anon, so I put a name in.

And why are you posting anon?

I bet this mistake happens a lot huh/

How dare to you tell me that I didn't take him home because of whatever reason you posted! I did what was best for Cody in this situation. He needs someone who is completely experienced in rescues and can deal with all his medical conditions. When we learned about Cody we all thought that his problems were at most underweight, fleas, and some minor infections. No one knew the extent of his condition. You have no right to pass judgment like that!

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Because I stated my opinion?

My name is Dirk Digler as you can see.

I THINK (and I've been watching this situation unfold) but I think someone actually saw the dog and relised Cody would be a lot of work and might never be the cuddly Bulldog they expected to eventually have and got cold feet. I think this is not worse than where he was obviuosly but I think this has an awful understory that is not being mentioned. I expect to be hammered for this post but I had to say it. I've recently went through the EXACT situation. I think the original plan should be adhered to and support given to the person who was going to take Cody home. Forget all this "feel so bad" and all the other excuses. At least be honest with the "family" here. I am appalled and most "brave, independent feeling and thinking" Bully owners should appalled also.