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Question for breeders?

I am just wondering what your policies are for allowing potential puppy buyers to come see your dogs? What about the litter of puppies? Do you let people come see them before they pick one? If you have a big demand and people want to reserve puppies as soon as they are born, how do you handle them getting to meet the puppy first before finalizing the sale? What about out of state buyers? I ask because since finding this board I realize I want to do things differently when I get my next puppy. I am very curious how various breeders handle this.
Thanks so much for your input!

Cathy
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It's totally worth it you nosy, controlling hussie....bwahahahah

Too funny!

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I was so anal about taking Audrey out!

i would NOT let her start puppy class until she had ALL her puppy shots, and even then I waited a month!I have seen puppies so small their eyes were barely open and they were wrapped up in towels at PetSmart. Knowing that people here are not big on vaccinations makes me cringe even more.

Cathy
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It's incredible to watch them grow....

but life is so fragile for a while. We have to be so darn careful. I cringe when I see people with little pups at PetSmart...so many germs for an immature immune system!

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Thanks to you too Cathy!

my first inclination would be that a show would be a stressful situation for a breeder to be bombarded by a potential future buyer. I think I had a million and one questions. I agree that it needs to be a right fit. BOTH have to feel confident about the lifelong commitment to the puppy. I really do feel so much better now about not being allowed to go visit Audrey when she was a tiny nipper. And it's not even about having a preference for one puppy over another, it's more like knowing YOUR baby is waiting for you to bring them home. I loved getting Audrey's picture updates, it was amazing to see her grow in those few weeks before I got to bring her home.

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Re: Question for breeders?

My preference is to meet people for the first time at a show site if possible. The potential owner can see my dogs and other quality dogs...talk to me and to other reputable breeders. The most important thing is for the puppy buyer to find the RIGHT pup from the RIGHT breeder. I might not be it...and it needs to be a good fit all around. They might think I'm a nosy, controlling hussie...and that's ok. I admit it...I am! My puppies count on me to be.

After I have approved a person as a potential owner (including checking references), they can visit my home and see my dogs. I don't allow visitors when pups are small to protect the pups from "outside" germs that mom may not be producing immunities for, but I'll send pictures and videos. When the pups are big enough, approved folks can visit and play with the babies.

I've got first pick...or picks. Folks have to wait for me to decide what I want to keep before we can even talk about which puppy they prefer. So it takes a patient soul to buy one of my puppies. Of course, I think it's worth it. happy.gif



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Thank you also

like I posted in my previous reply, I was second guessing being told I couldn't see my puppy until she was 6 weeks old. Now I feel much better knowing other breeders do that also. From a buyers perspective, I can understand getting nervous about not having a confirmed puppy. I don't want just ANY puppy, I want MY puppy. I am willing to wait if I can see him/her, even if it's just pictures and I can watch them grow. But I might get discouraged if after 8 weeks I was told the breeder didn't know yet which puppy was mine, and I had to be willing to take whichever one they decided they didn't want to keep. I understand breeding for your next show prospect, but I also understand wanting to know that MY puppy is waiting for me. It is not an easy one-size-fits-all situation!

Cathy
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Thank you!

I wasn't allowed to see Audrey before she was 6 weeks either, and I was seriously second guessing the whole situation. Her breeder bred bulldogs for 35 years and doesn't do it anymore because of health issues. I never went to see her, I picked Audrey up from her mentee's kennel. She was willing to meet me somewhere with Audrey before I actually bought her, because she was afraid to let strangers into her home, but I wasn't willing to let Audery get sold to someone else, I HAD to have her. The mentee that I picked Audrey up from usually sells the entire litters before their eyes are even open. It's just not possible to go meet the litter and pick out a puppy, and I was very curious to see if that was the exception or the norm. All the bulldog books recommendations for picking out a puppy tell you to go meet the litter and look for xx, xx and xx, but I just don't know if that is ever really feasible.
I really appreciate your input!

Cathy
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I would never pay a deposit for an unborn pup either

I was just asking breeders here because after getting to know them for a few months I really value their opinions. I am asking about their policies on people visiting their dogs, kennels, homes. Picking a puppy and meeting that puppy before it's taken home. How do they handle it when someone wants to see their dogs? Not just the puppies but their other dogs as well. Some breeders do have so many potential buyers that the pups get sold as soon as they are born. How do they handle it when people want to meet the puppy? So far from the responses I have received, my buying experience is very similar to what they describe they do. Makes me feel a bit better.

Cathy
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Deposits for pups before they are born is so wrong in so many wa

In my opinion when breeders take your NON REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT before pups are born are GREEDY!
What happened to the waiting list? I would never give my money to someone on a pup I can't even see.
Hold onto your money and find a respectable breeder who will place you on their waiting list for FREE.
My recommendation for pet buyers is go to meet some breeders and their dogs. Make a short list of breeders and dogs you like the best and then find out when litters are available.
Look for breeders who stand behind their contracts. Make sure they are available to you throughout the lifetime of your pet to answer any questions you may have.
Take a good look at the breeders dogs. Do they get along? HOw is there breathing? are they friendly? How is their skin condition? How does the breeder handle their dogs? Is the environment clean? Do they have the bulldog "look" you are looking for?
Check with the Kennel club to make sure they are in good standing with no formal complaints against them.
Some breeders may allow you to look at vet records of parents, get references of other pet owners and may participate in health testing.
Beware of the breeder that locks you into something that isn't even born yet.
The only time you should leave a deposit is once the breeder has requested you to choose your pup.happy.gif

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Re: Question for breeders?

lots of screening on the phone. You can often weed out the bad people in just one conversation. No one comes to see potential puppies until they are 6-8 weeks of age and eating solid kibble. I dont like to stress mommas out with strangers in our home. And i dont want people bringing in germs that could cause the puppy death. I allowed three familes to come view the puppies at 6 and 8 weeks. Only one family suck with me and they are WONDERFUL!!!

One thing i noticed with this litter, was that i lost alot of potential homes because i did not let them choose a puppy from birth through the first few weeks of age. I sent out a litter announcement to all my interests. The announcement named sire and dam, amount of puppies and sex and a picture of the litter. But then i stated that I breed only for the purpose in obtaining a show prospect. Its often very difficult for someone like me to see who is worthy of keeping so as pups became available i would send out pictures and or info. Most of my homes got tired of waitin and went elsewhere when they hit 8 weeks. But IMO if they can not be patient, and realize that i am doing them a favor in keping the puppy a bit longer, then they dont deserve my pup! I would have loved to have goten my first Bulldog current on ALL vacines, microchipped, crate trained and housebroken..thats a dream!

People who breed for the purpose of having show dogs often keep the pups unavailable longer than the average hobby breeder online or in the newspaper. They let them mature a bit to see what traits they are developing conformationally. Aother advantage of holding onto a puppy a bit longer is that it allows the breeder to watch potential concerns..ie stenotic nares- these often get better with age, heart murmurs- often go away- etc.

We all have to learn the hard way. Our first Bulldog purchases was a horrible experiecne and taught us so much and brought us to where were at today. We would hve never showed our dogs had we not had issues and a bad experience. it got us seeking out a btter example of the breed and into showing! I am greatful for what little time we did have with her.

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz


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I let genuine people come and visit my dogs

and people are able to come and view puppies after 6 weeks of age when they have had their first vaccination.

I rarely allow people to choose their puppy. They tell me which sex they are after and then I usually allocate a puppy to them once I have made a decision on whom I am keeping.

Generally I have already formed a relationship with the puppy buyer and we match the personalities of the puppies to their prospective families.

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i let people come visit my dogs

If they are looking for a puppy and we have one expecting. I screen and talk in detail with email and phone and I do a security check before they get my address. I always use my cell most all my friends don't have my home number

I don't take deposits on puppies before they are on the ground imo that is way to risky. I pet people visit at about 3 weeks and they can place else deposit on a puppy with the understanding that I have not made my pick so they have to pick 1st and 2nd choices. My keeper is first pick and that is reserves for me they can make a non refundable deposit with it refundable if the puppy dies or fails its puppy check .

The new puppy buyers are welcome to visit often and are sent pictures on a weekly or daily basis. Out of towners can pick by photo or come over puppies have to. be picked up and not shipped, I have made one exception. If they dont like my rules they can move on

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