I think the two collars are the same. Mine is a heavy steel thing with menacing-looking links that end in prongs.

As I said, our problem has been with walking, but I neglected to mention the exact same problem...Wanda will get all wound up and nip at feet (particularly if tasty toes are peeking out of sandals, ouch!)

Yes, we have kept the pronged collar on her at times when we are home, with and without the lead attached. Seems to remind her that toe nibbling is not appreciated. Guess she's just a huge puppy needing to play. Can't say that she's "trained" by any means, but she's only 7 months old.

Our trainer agrees that this is the best way to control her and not possibly cause damage to her trachea with a choke collar.

You must protect your bully's compromised trachea and a harness does not choke. I tried a "gentle leader" for obedience training, but found my bully just doesn';t have the face to keep the thing on. Good luck. I've heard about bulldogs just flopping.

I also used treats to train my dog. I would carry a pocket full. Everytime he stopped or pulled the wrong way, I would take out the treat - hold it in front of his nose and walk. At first, youmay be walking backwards but then just hold it in your hand by your side and walk. The first few weeks of this I was giving him treats alot during the walks. But now he doesn't even remember treats during the walks and always walks right beside me.


Sharon

at 4 months i was embarrsed to try to walk my male bully as he would be so afraid of leaving home and generally disobedient that he would be walking me! Now at 5 months he is a good walker but he can only go about two blocks and he is wiped. I originally got him walking good by bribing him with a cooked ckicken breast.He loves chicken.

Our 9 month bullie has the opposite problem. He drags me -- nearly choking himself also. We've been to puppy school and practiced and practiced heeling with a "bait," etc, but he's past his growth spurt and isn't as crazy about food rewards than running to meet new people and other things. I found a harness just gives him an opportunity to pull harder, though it doesn't hurt his neck like the collar. Any suggestions?

We use a prong collar on Oscar after he practically pulled my arm out of the socket. It doesn't hurt him, but if reminds him that if he pulls too hard, he won't like the results. He walks 100% better now.

First - is the pinch collar the same as the prong collar?

What type of collar do you find effective for training? Does anyone us these for behavior problems - going after feet - jumping, humping, etc.? Just curious. I don't have any problems with walking. However, inside the house, I still have problems with Spike going after feet and now because the phenobarbital is making him so hungry, he is jumping at and biting at anyone with food. I am using bitter apple, water spray bottles and time out in his crate. Several times when company has been here, I have usedhis collar and lead ( which are regular cloth) This seems to help and I have seen information about short training leads for keeping your dog right next to you in the house so they don't chew, etc.

I am thinking of getting a trainer to come in to help but I know some of them use choke collars and the prong collars. I was not sure if these are appropriate for bulldogs because of their necks.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.

My bullie, Wanda, is a very independent 7 mo old. We have her in obedience training and she does quite well during class. However, on walks she is very "bad" and pulls on leash or stops and has to be pulled.. We put a pinch collar on her now during walks and she is really improving each day! Also helps when I need to pull her back from big leaping hellos to strangers.

Makes her look a bit vicious, but does not choke windpipe as other collars do. She is also becoming a better doggie citizen, much more civilized, sooner. And that's better for everyone!