that he either needs to lose at least 10lbs or have Entropian surgery. He said the weight gain is making his face a bit bigger and his eyes curl in on his eye. He gave us some cream to put in his eye to help so it does not irritate him so much.
I am, at this point trying to get him to lose the weight.
Any thoughts or advice?
some heads develop up to 4yrs old
it depends on the lines. I would get a 2nd opinion before any surgery unless i was very comfortable with my vet and the amount of bulldogs in his practice.
My vet i trust 100%, you go in his office and you see bulldog, i dont think i have ever been in the office where i didnt atleast see 1 bulldogs.
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He will be 2 on Jan 7th
Is this still in the growing stages?

how old is he
as the head grows the face and eyes change. DO not do surgery until he is grown out of the puppy stage as he may not need it.
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I am going to try the ointment and diet first and then see how he does. He is a bit overweight. But if I see anything change def off to the ophthalmologist!

really
I have nver heard that said before, I don't see how extra weight would make his eyelid curl in, maybe you could take Porkchop to see an opthamologist, I know Lily had her work done as did my daughters bully, how had both eyes done top & bottom, oh and twhen we were there he popped a cherry eye, all healed very nicely, good luck
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Then you def would not like it here! It is 12 degrees with a windchill of -12 and lows in the single digits!!

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Hugs and smooches to your gang!
we are all freezing our tushies off but great otherwise...lol
its too cold here for me and the gang....
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Definatly!
I know I do not want to risk his eyes. Thanks for the advice! I will let you know how he is progressing.

Hopefully
it all works out. i would give it a few days on the ointment and try taking a few pounds off. If you notice him squinting to the point he wont open the eye though or his eye looks foggy I would get him to the opthomologist.
I always take mine to an Opthamologist for any eye issues
Really, the Opthamologist is no more expensive than a bulldog Vet. And believe me, they see lots of bulldogs.

I hate it when they have to keep them!
Prayers for Jazzy's bestestest fwiend and her mommy! Let us know what they say!

For Pork and Mommy both!!
If only we had an indoor dog park! You know where any good ones are!?!?LOL

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Hey Tom
In the eye that he is having the problem I can see no other swelling or anything. I can see the fur touching his eye. He will blink it more often and sometimes some discharge will come out. He is doing great with the ointment! So I am really hoping it will continue to improve. We do know a great Opthamologist that has already seen Jazzy when she had Distichia (sp?)

We may end up going to see him if this does not work out....our vet is a great bully vet and he is just trying to avoid surgery. He likes to have surgery as the last option if at all possible.
Poor Porky
That sounds odd, but I guess it's possible. It's just diet and exercise. Lots and lots of exercise.

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Thanks Deb!
I was just thinking about you! I am going to try the green beans tonight. I already called my hubby to let him know!

How are you all doing?
poor Pork Chop...well let me
say the gang has lost alot of weight with 1/2 cup of food and 1/2 cup of frozen green beans they love love love them...they have doggie treats but also get carrots apples pealed, and bananas.... griffin has lost the most he was 82 lbs and is down to 69...
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great idea...I took a pug to one of them..they are awsome..
you can get your vet to recommend one to you
take your bully there..
there is nothing like a good opthomologist..
and the cost of them is not that expensive really either..
I was impressed with the one for Otis here in Canada..
YOU WILL NEED a recommendation from your vet..a referal to see one for sure though
regardless, a vet with a lot of experience with the breed is hel
agree on seeing an opthamologist
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XRay tomorrow
Shes is walking on it OK now. She has to spend the night at the vet tomorrow night. Im gonna miss her
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Im sorry but
the Bulldog specialist term gets way overused here. In most instances it is fine but in all reality and eye is an eye and entrpion is entropion whether it is on a bulldog or a shar pei. if the problem is with the eye an opthamologist is your best bet.
No offence taken!
I need to hear this....I want to do the right thing for Pork! I will talk to my hubby, we do know another bully vet in St. Louis that we have taken Jazzy to before. I may get a second opinion.

Thanks
How is Polly's leg doing?

Amy
I would use the ointment for a few days and see what happens. If anything see an opthamologist if it does not get better. It is just kind of weird that it is only in one eye. He may have a small infection or conjunctivitis that is causing it to swell. If that is the case the ointment should help. If you hold his eye open with your finger is the membrane around his actual cornea swollen?
That's great you like him but...
that doesn't necessarily mean he is a specialist in terms of bulldogs.
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Losing weight is not going to affect entropion. That is the silliest thing I have heard no offense.
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Poor Pork!!
Im not sure about the weight loss but good luck to the sweet guy!
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You think so?
Our vet is great, we have had no problems with him so far.

He said that some of the weight
he gained, he gained in his face. That his wrinkles are almost swollen for lack of a better word right now.

We ran around the house last night and he loved it!
Hope you are having fun!!
Thanks
Will def check it out

Great Idea!
Thanks Pat

I would go to a bulldog vet/specialist
for a second opinion
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YOU can vary the kind of frozen green beans that you use too...
I sometimes for the heck of it use the string frozen beans..
mostly just the frozen regular green beans..
when I see them go on sale..I STOCK Up..it does not take long to go through a bag of beans..
goodluck
you can use other frozen veggies too if you want to give him a change..
MY DOGS all love frozen green beans..
even the bullies who do not need to be on diet..
Aww poor baby!
Rosie had to loose a lot of weight at one point she weighed 71 lbs and she is now down to 54 lbs
and boy was it ever worth it!

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My old vet recommended a diet medicine called Slentrol so we tried it. You can google it to find out more info. Basically it helps you learn when the dog is full and how much food the dog actually needs. Well we learned that we were over feeding Rosie a lot. So by cutting back her food to the dose the medicine showed she needed and exercise she is now down to 54 lbs and feels great! it took a good 2 years to get all the weight off but you dnt want to have them loose it super fast either!
She is still on the same amount of food twice a day but i will add in green beans as fillers for her and she dont get much people food or table scraps just special occasions
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Porky loves them!
I will def try this tonight! Thanks so much! I cannot wait to post a pic of the newly thin Porky!

And to help him out Mommy is going on a diet too. (though not the same one!!LOL)
Yes, I use frozen....no salt like the cans...
my dogs love all veggies so I am sure PC will love them too!
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Thanks!
do you feed them to them frozen?

I'm just not sure losing weight will help his eye
It sounds as if he does need to lose weight though. I would try to cut his food back and give him green beans as a replacement. If he will play fetc, that's a good way to get some exercise indoors. Trace and I are playing fetch right now.

Frozen green beans right?
The canned ones have too much salt....am I remembering correctly?

it works too....I use it on the pugs here all the time now too..
just cut back on the regular kibble and supplement with the green beans..
they really need to be frozen type of green beans..
do not need to cook them or anything
my chubby pugs are doing great on this diet
and love it too
Re: Cash had "puppy entropian"
I am going to be really strict and do anything to avoid him having to go through surgery! Wish us luck!

Thanks for the info!
Thanks
I was wondering what the green bean diet was!

Cash had "puppy entropian"
but it had nothing to do with his weight, my vet said he would outgrow it - and he has for the most part. A little more growing to do and he should be perfect
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The opthalmologist we saw said that with young dogs who show mild entropian she doesnt do surgery, just tacks if they NEED it and re-evaluates when the dog is full grown (18-24 months)
I never heard that either until the other day....
I was telling a friend about Cain's "all of a sudden" tear stains on his face and she said "oh, he gained that much weight that now he has entropian?". And she is not exactly a person that does not KNOW bulldogs!
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Cain's weight is the exact opposite! He has lost 4 lbs due to his energy level and constant need to play so he is thinner then when I first got him.
Suggestion: green beans to supplement kibble....seems to be a popular one. Reduce the amount of kibble you give him and supplement with green beans.
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard that.
He weighs 69lbs. He is overweight. I have not been able to get them out like I have been before it got so cold and over Christmas.

That's the first time I have ever heard that.
What does he weigh?
