to get more info on and try to help. The lady is exaggerating the amount of times the dog has seizures. She is the only one in the family that the dogs acts aggressive wiht. Most likely it is a dominance issue. I plan to call her today and ask her to have the dog evaluated by a CPDT. I hope she would do this. Got to go make lots of calls. hugs to you all for your input.

Pam, Winston, Mallie, Wesley and for now Rockie

Bella was the one who was off on her own, just watching. Very calm, and laid back. When she got home she was nothing like that. She is the most trusting, laidback girl in my house. She is the best with dogs and kids.

:D

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

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play a huge role in a dogs behavior, breeds as well as individual pups in a litter have vastly different temperaments. Temperament testing litters is pretty interesting, if you ever have the opportunity to participate, go for it.

Lynn King CPDT

I didn't mean to direct that to Sean! :D

Just my answer to the original post.

Allison
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temperament is something a dog is born with, personality can be changed and molded to fit what you want in a dog (training, socialization, etc.) Training a dog to hide his temperament isn't the same as getting a well bred dog born w/ a stable temperament.

You should never breed an aggressive dog.





Allison
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In my opinion, a dogs behavior is directly related to the environment they were raised in from birth. And there are many factors, weaned too early, only child, other dogs bad behavior, no parental tutoring in the early weeks, etc... Your vet answered the question, same breeder, same behavior. He would probably say Bulldogs are all wonderful if all of his encounters came from a better breeding environment with some rules, limits and discipline.
Yes, just like children, you can have a dog that is more or less a bad seed or raised in the ADHD or aggressive behavior realm. But honestly, would you say that due to inner city violence all inner city people are violent? Someone who is a murderer means their parents are murderers? A red zone Dog is because their parents were red zone??
I'm not buying it. Also, is biting for attention aggressive behavior?? Did it break the skin?? I think attacking people and other dogs is aggressive behavior. Showing dominance could be interpreted as aggressive, I guess.
I have come to learn that the MAJORITY of Dog owners do not know how to discipline, train or take care of theirs or anyone else Dog. If they did, people like Lynn King would not have a job.
JMHO!
Cheers

Sean-Owner
Edins Blanca Tonka-Dog

My boy's personality is exactly like his fathers yet they have been brought up totally different. Therefore, it is never a good idea to breed an aggressive dog, good temperament is vital.

It's not the norm for the breed. If I ever heard that from any of our vets (we have 3), I'd run in another direction!

Sandra, Cooper and AJ!
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thanks,
Me

Andrea and Ruby
XXOO

What an ignorant vet! Everyone knows the temperAment of the Bulldog is to be...

TEMPERAMENT

The disposition should be equable and kind, resolute and courageous (not vicious or aggressive), and demeanor should be pacific and dignified. These attributes should be countenanced by the expression and behavior.

Quoted directly from the BULLDOG STANDARD FROM THE BULLDOG CLUB OF AMERICA EDUCATION COMMITTEE....

perhaps all vets (and breeders) should read it!!!

Andrea and Ruby
XXOO

aggression can be hereditary. Aggression is only one aspect of dog behavior. We can breed dogs to be great family dogs, flock guarders, field/gun dogs, herders, retreivers, etc.,

Lynn King CPDT

Bad temperament can be inhernet and dogs that show aggressive behavior consistent from an early age should not be bred. But it's certainly not a trait of the breed. There can be environmental issues or experiences that a dog had that contribute to his/her aggression.

I would stay away from that vet! He's obviously prejudice against Bulldogs in general. b

Why would all bullies he's encountered be aggressive? And how many would that be?

Sandra, Cooper and AJ!
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Aggression, in my opinion, can be a condition to which a dog is predisposed by heredity. It can also be as a result of the environment in which a dog is raised. Neither is an absolute, though. You can get a sweet pup from 2 aggressive parents, or you can get a rescue that turns into a loving, gentle soul with the proper love and attention. JMO

Cathy Miller
http://www.marshillbulldogs.com

agression can be genetic as well as enviromental. JJ our first Bullie who was put down for agression was belived to be agressive from genetic issues.
In breeding sometimes certian genes just do not mesh up. In JJ's litter of 7, 4 were agressive. So in this case I would say gentics. Of these 4, at the time we first met them they were the ones who were quiet, with calm laid back personalities. Go figure. BTY I now know this is a red flag.

I think temperment & personality go hand in hand. I know one post here said that personalities can be changed but I disagree with that. Behavior can be modified but personalites do not really change, its who they are.
Some dogs are tense and will always be tense. Some dogs have outgoing personalites and will stay outgoing. And some dogs matures with age. Thier personality may be altered with maturity but i feel for the most part it stays the same.In the case of litters of puppies I find it best that a breeder evalaute the puppies personalites and tempermants. Then form bios on each pup. During placements its best to match a puppy up with an individual who fits that pups personality. If more breeders did this I think we may see a decline in dogs being surrendered. A strong willed pup for instance is often placed in a home that is looking to spoil thier puppy and cater to its every need and desire. Not a good choice. The dog then takes charge, and next thing you know thier are calling rescue because they claim thier 7 month old pup is "agressive". Its sad....

Rhiann, Samson, Mia and Karma
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