I know Audrey isn't the only dog here with aggression issues, and I was just wondering what some others have/are doing about it? I am trying to have realistic short and long term expectations. She recently had some big problems fighting over toys with my other dog. It really escalated around the same time as we started giving her high protein food as training treats. Lynn told me of a study showing a correlation between increased aggression and high protein food in dogs, (and we also noticed her nose was smelling again),so we stopped giving the treats. The smell went away AND she got much less aggressive with the other dog. I separate the 2 at all times with an x-pen, but in transit there is much less tension between them. I also saw another study that showed more aggression in spayed females vs intact females, based on answers provided by owners on the C-BARQ test. She just got spayed 2 months ago. Well obviously I can't un-spay her: I would actually still spay her even if I was 100% certain it would increase her aggression. I'd rather have her alive and bitchy than dead from pyometra or tumors. So, is there any hope the 2 dogs will be able to peacefully co-exist again?
Her aggression towards strange dogs is another matter entirely. I do think her overall personality has a LOT to do with her difficulty overcoming being attacked. She does NOT BACK DOWN, ever, and she seems to have lost her faith in canine-kind and has an "I'm going to get you before you get me" attitude.I also pushed her WAY too hard and too fast, and it set her back I'm sure. She starts her advanced training classes in February, and if she is able to overcome this, she'll take her CGC test in March.
Cathy
when she first came home
no, I dont' watch it
but I did enjoy that video! It's very hard for me around other dogs because I am nervous and I know Audrey can tell.

Cathy
when she first came home
Add Sophie to that sisterhood:-)
Except she has no issues with humans at all. She loves people and will wiggle for love for everyone:-) Other dogs, horses, anything with wheels, etc...she wants to eat them all. She is much better with dominant males and females that are very sure of themselves, but with any submissive dog she is a real cow and will fight them at will. I keep her away from anything I know she will have an issue with...as much for her protection as whatever she wants to kill.
I love Sophia to pieces though and would have her in my life no matter what. I just take extra precautions to keep her safe in her world, and her world safe from her!
Amy and Sophia
i know this might sound crazy but have you tried..
the dog whisperer techniques? i feel that the way he does things makes so much sense. I have used his techniques for curbing gabby's constanct licking issue, haven'r cured it yet, but at least have a little control of it, and of course we are still working on it. I have a friend who actually got a call back and was used for the show!!! try to write or email him , send pics of the dogs, and hopefully he will choose you!
here is one episode with a frenchie that may help give you some ideas...
http://www.fancast.com/tv/Dog-Whisperer/95214/1361958766/Miles-and-Maxie-%26-Booker/videos
it will also list the other episodes with real bulldogs in it, so you can look those up too. good luck!
I know she may never get it. and
It does bother me some, mainly because I am not asking her to be best friends with a dog, or even have any interaction at all with another dog, I just want her to be able to cross paths with another dog without feeling like she has to strike first. I will never take her to a dog park again, or a doggy day care setting where she will be surrounded by other dogs. I wouldn't even take her to see Santa because I knew standing in line with dogs in her comfort zone would be way too much to ask of her. The resource guarding is fairly new, our old dog has suddenly started acting much livlier and shown an interest in toys she never even looked at before. I know Audrey is always the one who crosses the line to actual biting/fighting, but the old dog lost all patience too. I am actually surprised at the difference in BOTH dogs after stopping those treats! Makes me really see the validity of that study.

Yes your story does help. I have felt too that Audrey was a 'bad dog'. I think we love them so much that we want them to be perfect, and sometimes it's easy to downplay the fact that they are still DOGS and their personalities are so uniquely theirs. I also don't know if Audrey was properly socialized. I didn't really have any way for Audrey to see other dogs or many different people either until she had all her shots. I was so worried about her getting sick before she had immunity. When I get another puppy I will definitely take him out more as a young pup. Still don't quite know how to safely let a puppy meet new dogs though. I found some places where meeting new humans won't be a problem!
Cathy
when she first came home
cathy- audrey & lily could be sisters
my lily also has aggression issues, Lynn & I have spoken several times about her, Lynn is a godsend, she has made me realise that I don't have a "disney dog" . I started to walk lily several times a day, up and down my road, she with go after anything that moves, animals,cars,trucks, people, after a few weeks of this, she was doing much better, we then started to walk in a busier part of town, she can now walk with busier streets, she has stopped going after cars, she usually ignores people now, but there are still days when she just loses it, and now that Rocky is feeling better, he has started to challenge her, and she also will not back down, she has to be crated if strangers come to my home, the other day I went walking with her and my neighbour(she barks at him all the time) was outside, and I stpeed to talk to him, and she totally ignored him, boy was I ever shocked, he even said wow she is not trying to eat me. but I also understand that whatever i do needs to be done slowly at a rate that lily is comfortable with, If I try to teach her to much and she fails I slow down I go back to the beginning, she gets alot of praise, and treats, but she has to earn them, But what it comes down to is I forgot to be the pack leader, Dont give up, hope this helps to know that your not alone .
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I hope I'm not being too much of a downer, but I want you to
be prepared that she may never get her CGC, or it may take much longer than March. When we frist got Hooch I had those kinds of goals too, but then I realized, I need to accept him for who he is and not try to make him into something he's not. Luckily, he's our only dog and always will be. He also has serious resource guarding issues with other dogs, but if there isn't food or an object to fight over he totally ignores them...does not "start trouble"....but if a dog acts aggressively, as has happened in the vet's office (we wait outside now) he is ready to fight and, like your girl, will not back down. He's never going to be playing in dog parks with his friends...and that's fine. We just want him to happy...whatever that means for him. It's kind of like a parent letting a kid live their life and find their happiness instead of trying to tell them how THEY want them to live.
Hooch is a rescue. When we first got him he was totally shut down. After a few months (and some time on prednisone for allergies) he became fearfully aggressive whenever someone would come to the house and even went after our cats if they startled him (had never shown aggression to them before). He also snapped at my husband if he tried to physically move him when he was in his anxious state. The trainer we got said he did have bite inhibition though. Even with the dogs he went after, he tackled them, but no biting thankfully.
We first had his thyroid checked and that was fine. We also got a trainer and I read a ton of books....also Lynn here helped me so much. When it first happened I was so upset and she reassured this didnt make him a "bad dog", there was hope...and for that I am forever grateful. The trainer had us have family come over and as soon as they entered toss treats to him. We figured out he didnt like a lot of hand movement so they were to sit calmly and not make eye contact with him, just toss treats every now and then as we sat calmly and spoke. Weeks of this and getting off the prednisone (wee see a holistic vet now for allergies) worked...but being a rescue, it was also a lot of time, patience and love. He needed time to bond with us, develop trust, etc.
Hooch has taught us a lot...especially to be patient and accepting. I don't know if our story will help you since each dog is so different, but I wanted to offer some hope and let you know that even if she doesn't get her CGC she is still a great dog...but you already knew that I'm sure.
I hope you get a lot of responses, the experiences
of other owners is such a wealth of information.
Lynn King CPDT