Bulldogs World

No breakfast is the WORST!!  Good luck with your "snip, snip", big guy!

I can't help with the raw question, sorry. 

If he is a Science Diet reccommends (sshheesh no matter how I spell that it looks wrong--the heck with it)  It is very possible he gets kick backs from science diet.  we used to go to a vet that sold it right there at the vet, and it is what he pushed...he got a very nice kick back every quarter.  Not saying it is a horrible food, but it is like a doctor  perscribing a medication, and getting kick backs from the drug companies!  The do have an awesome canned food for cats and for dogs that is called AD, great if you have one that has been horribly sick and needs to gain weight, we nursed a persian back to health with it, and my boston when I rescued it from Parvo.

Anyway, dont know about raw, but I know alot of people swear by it.  Certainly cannot take seriously the threat of samonilla-----its in a huge portion of the kibble, so that is a mute point now!

Yup Science diet donates a lot of money to vet schools..so the vets are taught to feed science diet. I am not sure why they would recommend that food it really is not good at all. Even if they are not a fan of raw diets they should at least promote a halfway decent kibble! Or take a look at the ingredients that go into science diet such as "corn gluten meal or chicken by-product meal." I cannot take any vet seriously if they tell me to feed my dog that food. Sorry for the rant but it really bothers me!!!  

There are actually alot of vets that highly recommend a raw diet...but they are certainly not nearly as plentiful as vets that recommend the crap they sell (ie Science Diet).  Which IMO is a horrible dog food.

If you research raw feeding you will find many of the articles and research done by vets.

I think vets are mostly concerned with the feeding of bone and the samonella issue.  But we can all see that samonella can be found in kibble and we all know kibble that has killed dogs.  If you study what is actually in kibble, taken out of kibble during the whole manufacturing process and then all the stuff you can't pronounce put back into kibble it would sicken you.  I'm not into my dogs eating road kill, dead rotting animals and all the parts.

With my intro into the raw feeding I did just what you are doing.  I fed kibble (Grain free "Now") and Natures Variety prepackaged raw.  It worked very well for me.  I would recommend you add more Omega 3 & 6 to the diet via wild salmon oil or something similar.

Due to the high cost of the prepackaged raw I now fed RAW only.  I belong to a co-op so I can get large volume, high quality organic, grass feed meats much less per lb then the prepackaged raw.  My dogs eat way better then me and I know exactly what they are eating.  What I don't do is feed chicken bones at all.  I will only feed ground fowl, but I let me dogs chew on raw meaty bones, knuckle bones (beef, venison and i have some Emu knuckles bones ordred). I do not feed rib bones.  Too old school I guess and those bones are sharp.

My vet is fine with me feeding raw, he just doesn't like me feeding bones.  He had to unimpact my old guy that wasn't digesting the bone and it impacted him.  Took a lot of work to clean him out (via cathater violation) and I'm lucky he didn't get perforated and that we didn't have to do surgery.  So he gets very little bone and every couple of weeks he gets a good healthy serving of tripe and organ to keep him cleaned out.

my suggestion is to find a good holistic vet...most holistic vet are into raw feeding the reg vets make their money off kibble..and cant be bothered to do the research to help new owners feed raw.....they dont want the problems should some thing go wrong!!!!!!   their just lazy....be careful with raw and kibble always feed your kibble at nite as it takes longer to digest than raw.....look into honest kithen its really good,,,and its grain free and you can add in raw meats ect...their also a great group on face bood raw feeding friends.....just to learn and have fun......education before you start raw is very very important.....have fun with it is my motto

And they think you are too stupid to figure out how to feed your dog properly. They have been taught by dog food manufacturers about how very complicated and difficult canine nutrition is, and that you need complex scientific formulas to do it right.

Well, if we were trying to take inappropriate for carnivores waste from the human food industry and turn it into something a dog could live on, then yes it would be complicated. 

It is ABSURD and absolutely unacceptable in 20-freakin 12 for a medical professional to tell anyone that the BEST way to feed ANY SPECIES of animal is the most highly processed, devoid of moisture and nutrient, as far from the natural state and it is possible to get dried up food that can sit in a bag for years and not rot. 

Everyone knows by now that the BEST food for ANY creature is food as close to it's natural state as you can get. It's common knowledge that highly processed foods are the least nutritious and should NEVER make up the entire diet.

Why in the WORLD would dogs be the one and ONLY exception to that?!? It is crazy that any vet would STILL try to sell people that load of nonsense.

I am only feeding one dog. I do not buy in bulk. I don't have any available co-ops or any places to get large quantities of meat.

My dog only eats around 12 oz of food a day, or 22 pounds of meat a month.  It doesn't matter of I have 100 pounds stored or none stored at all, she still only eats 12 oz a day. Yes it's nice to have food in the freezer, but we have to shop for the humans anyways, it's NOT an outrageous big deal to add meat for Audrey to the cart too.