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obedience training collar help

Hello..

I want to start obedience training with harry.

Now every trainer gives different answers to me what collar to use..

one said,, chain it dangerous..another told me to use chain..one said prong..another said flat ..and the head halter..

Talk about confusing..

Please..any obedience people out there..what collar do you use..

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CathyandAudrey's picture

we always used a harness

and still do.

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really..the harness is what I

really..the harness is what I use to walk the boys..pulling and all..

Every trainer i spoke with..(many) says not to use harness....harnessess are used in dog pulls etc.

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Audrey doesn't pull

maybe that makes a difference.

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Cathy and Audrey  

Dooley is in a Basic training class now. His trainer really

likes the martingale collars.  They work good because they can't wiggle out of them.

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RobinandLeo's picture

collar

Long ago I used a chain link collar for obedience training my 1st Bulldog and have never used one again because of his reaction to it. He hated the sound of the links clicking together and every time I took the collar off the peg and he heard it, he would take off and hide.
After I figured out what triggered him, I changed to a nylon choker style collar and saw a big improvement in his attitude/cooperation when in class and for at-home training sessions.

harness for us

one of the first things they will teach in class is to not pull.  I would never put Kippah in a collar,  personally I dont like the pressure it puts on her airway if she needed to put strain on the leash for some reason, for example when she goes barreling down the front steps and I am not up to speed with her.

 

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Deb and MacKenzie and Ester's picture

Collars

depend on your knowledge and ability.  If you don't know how to properly train with a choke collar then you likely should start with something else.  Get assistance with a qualified trainer.  Harnesses IMO teach the dog to pull.  Suri was trained with a harness and OMG she was horrible to walk. I would never use a harness unless a dog is properly trained.  If you don't know how to use a pinch collar then don't.  If your dog doesn't pull then there is no need to use a pinch collar or choke. If you need a pinch collar then try a  Starmark Collar aned use with a qualified instructor.  It all depends on the trainer.  If you find someone that teaches positive reinforsement training and you trust them then go with their suggestions.  I hate harnesses and would never use a harness, but I know how to correctly train my dogs to walk on a leash.  Mr preference for casual walks with bulldogs is a flat martingale collar. 

We use a harness for trips - collar for casual walks

When we need 100% control - as in out in public, at an event (Like the bully kissing booth) its a harness -

If we are casually walking the neighborhood, a collar (just plain everyday, slap tags here and leash there collar) and she does very well... until she sees the boys playing basketball - she LOVES basketballs... and will back out of a collar if given the chance.

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lol...anything that remotely

lol...anything that remotely looked round to him he thought was a ball too...was the only time he pulled!

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i always used a collar but

i always used a collar but never really had a problem w/him...he never pulled....he loved his walks

We use a prong

Never ever thought I would put a prong collar on Oliver because they look so painful but are so glad that we made the change.  Started with a normal nylon buckle collar but whenever he pulled he would completely choke himself so we switched to the no-pull harness.  Less a problem sith the pulling but still some issues and more so it just didnt seem like he ever wanted to walk.  We hired a trainer to show us how to use the prong collar, not too much to it, basically give a very short and gentle jerk, to correct the dog.  He had us put the collar on ourselves first so we could see that it really wasnt painful, but definitely not pleasant either.  Anytime we go for a walk to prong collar goes on and Oliver had the best leash manners we could ever imaging.  It never really seemed like he enjoyed his walks very much before, he would drag behind with his head down sometimes.  Now he always has a big smile on his face with his head up high leading the way but never pulling.  We walk downtown and back on the weekends which is like a 4 mile walk and he is trotting perfectly the whole time.  Not exactly sure what about the collar/training makes the different because at this point we hardly ever need to correct him but it really has been night and day.  We now notice that almost all the other dogs around us us prongs too.  Good luck

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We used a prong collar for

We used a prong collar for training, with an actual trainer to make sure we knew how to fit it and how to use it correctly.  I still use it when I have Beatrix with me in the city, so that I know I have control to correct her if I need to on the streets and public transportation. Plus, since she was trained in it, it actually puts her in more of a listening mindset, which is good.

When we've just got her out for a day in the park or something, then I use the harness, so she can run and tug all she wants without any pressure on her neck. But that's when I want her to have that freedom of motion.

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