New puppy jitters!

So many questions don't know where to start. She's pooping in her crate. Today she pooped 4 times outside.  I fed her once in the morning. Then not till 4 but she still pooped in her crate even though she did right before outside. 

The other thing we are trying to keep her on a schedule but after we feed her she doesn't poop. I wait up to a half hour and walk her around outside and tell her to poop. Hoping she gets the idea. I continually praise her. Nothing. It's random. Never experienced this. 

Sigh

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How old?

Did the breeder do any start with potty training?

Feeding morning then not until 4pm is way too long in between feedings for a 9 week old puppy. They need be fed at a minimum 3 times a day, morning noon and night.

How long have you had the puppy? If the breeder never attempted to potty train then you are starting off with a puppy that has no clue what you are wanting.

How was the puppy raised by the breeder? n Good starts by a reputable breeder is so helpful when potty training a puppy.

Is there plenty of water available for the puppy at all times?

You have to be consistent. Puppy eats, 20 minutes later puppy goes out to poop. You just have to stay out there until the puppy poops, if the puppy doesn't poop then 20 minutes later you need to take the puppy out again. You have to watch like a hawk in between feedings. Most puppies run around looking for a spot, might start circling...you need to run and scoop that puppy up and get it out side, even if the puppy is in the middle of its business. Once they potty outside....its a huge happy party. You neighbors will think you are nuts.

Do you have a fenced yard?

Al my puppies were started with potty training around 4 weeks.

The breeder has been very

The breeder has been very helpful. She did good this morning. Went out at 5 she did 1 and 2. We then both went back to sleep. Woke up and ate. She immediately wanted to poop. Honestly not sure how much training she had. I think some. 

I know patience and consistency is the key. I think part of me is worried because I have to back to work at the end of August and want her on a schedule. I will be less worried about her and it'll be much easier for my mom that first month when she comes over. 

I took mine

outside ever 15 min. block off the crate, only give them enough room to turn around in a circle. they won't want to poop where they sleep (fingers crossed)..

We made the crate smaller

We made the crate smaller last night. Going out later and keeping my fingers crossed. Do you crate at night as well? If so do you get up in the middle of the night to let her out?

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Crate

whenever you are not there to totally monitor the puppy. Not only is the best method for potty training it will also save furniture and the home from chewing and is far safer for the puppy.

I have never needed to use the make the crate smaller method. If one has to go then one has to go, forcing a puppy to hold so they don't have to lay in it seems counter productive to me and not a positive reinforcement training method.

I would rather have a puppy potty and have enough space to not lay in it then forcing them too lay in it.

I have always set a 2:00am alarm to take the puppy out. As they get older they can hold it longer. If they have pottied already then I set my alarm earlier.

The key is timing and consistency.

She takes up to a 1/2 hour to

She takes up to a 1/2 hour to settle down in the crate. Just kills me.   I know she'll get used to it. 

On another note she's do darn nippy. Trying to be patient a say no biting then give h another toy but sometimes she get so riled up. I put her in her bed and give her toys. I really think she gets over tired or stimulated and doesn't know what to do. 

we crate

at night time and when we are at work... and if she is fighting with her brother too much, I will stick him in there for an hour to give him a break.... puppies LOVE to chew on things (like her brothers ears!!!) Good luck!

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As far as the nipping.....

..... that's a bully pup for you and that's how puppies teeth are. Tucker was a crazy nipper as a puppy and his teeth felt like needles. It was the summer when we got him and that meant sandals and I think I still have scars from him coming after my ankles and feet. When he wasnt in his crate and was just around the house(supervised of course) I kept him on a kitten sized leash so if he came after me to nip i could re direct him easier. It worked well for us. We also used the divider in his crate and I found that worked well. He could still lay down and nap but didn't have too much room to "get silly" I will say. Fortunately, our breeder had started crate and toilet training before we even picked him up so we didn't have any issues with him peeing in the house.

Good luck :)

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Nipping

We say firmly no biting and redirect with a toy.  She's 9 weeks now.  If we are consistent I'm thinking she should be good in a couple months. 

Crating

When you crate the puppy at night, what time?  Do you get up in the middle of the night to let her out since she's 9 weeks?

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Bed time

Well it really depends on your bedtime, but as late as possible and do some playtime before hand to try and get the puppy tired.

Absotutely yes for a nine week old puppy, they can maybe hold it 3 - 4 hours because they are sleeping daytime they need to go out more often because they are playing and drinking water.

I have always been pretty lucky with puppies all having had great potty breaking starts from the breeder so they were very easy to potty break. Infact I have never had a bulldog puppy be a crate pooper ever and they have pretty much all whinned to go outside. As adults they all bark to go outside.

So I would schedule something like this, of course dependent on your schedule.
7:00am feed
12:00 feed
7:00pm feed
10:00pm bedtime
1 or 2:00am potty (no play, right back in the crate to sleep)
6:00am wake (immediately out to potty).

I have found picking up puppy at this age and literally carrying them out to the grass in the morning helps because they want to pee the minute they get out of the crate.

In a month you should have a pretty potty trained puppy.

Nipping .... Hah! It's a bulldog and they are known to be very bitey puppies. Once the teething is over this will too. They are baby sharks. Limit the ear chewing as much as possible. You can try using Bitter Apple on your feet or the other dogs ears. If the older dog growls or shows displeasure to the puppy that is fine, puppy needs to learn limits and the best teacher is an older gentle dog.

I have also used my older dogs to help teach the puppy to lead. So much easier to walk them both at the same time. Then after they get the hang of the collar and leash with the older dog, then I'll start with them by their selves. Good idea to teach this at a young age.

Thanks!!  My biggest concern

Thanks!!  My biggest concern is that it takes her awhile to settle when in the crate and if I get her up in the middle of the night she keeps us all up.  

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Well it's just like a baby

when you bring a puppy into the home. So would you like a potty trained dog, or are you ok with pee and poop in the house. A few sleepless nights now, will save a lot of frustration in the future.

This puppy with learn to settle in the crate. Sometimes it takes a couple of weeks. It's a huge adjustment. Is the puppy in a crate in your bedroom? I don't like them in my room, I want them to learn to be ok and independent without being right next to me. Also I would throw a blanket over the back and side of the crate to make it more den like and it should be a wire crate (not the hard plastic shipping crates). Stuffed toys and blankies to snuggle in. Try throwing the blankie in the dryer to warm it up and see if that helps the puppy settle. They love a warm pile of freshly dryed clothes.

Believe me I've had plenty of sleepness nights when getting a new puppy. And I've had a litter of 7.

I didn't get my 2nd bulldog until 7 years after my first one ... and he cried at night for what seemed like 2 weeks (probably more like 3 or 4 nights). My husband who had never had a puppy was not a happy camper and I was wondering what the heck I had done. But we lived through it. That puppy is now 10 yrs old. He was totally potty trained and free roam of the house by the time he was 6 months old, never destroyed anything. He's my saint, could not have asked for a better sweet, loving boy. Now my old man.

Well it's 2 in the morning.

Well it's 2 in the morning. She woke me because she pooped in her crate. Had to wash her and change the bedding. Not sure why. Pooped before going in there. Left her for 2 hours and. she did great. Was going to bring her up with me but agree she has to learn. Thanks for the support. 

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How much are you feeding and what feed?

Sounds like she is either eating too much or isn't absorbing the nutrients well which increases fecal amounts. 

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Amy and Sophia

Iams puppy large breed

I feed her 3 times. Trying to get her on a schedule. Feeding her times around 6:30-7am, 11:30 and 4:30. Luckily she went right back to bed and she let me sleep until 6. I didn't want to push it about accidents!!!  I know it's a process but small victories make me happy. If I can get her trained in the next week or so I'm happy. I can deal with all the puppy nippy stuff. Lol!!

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I would get her on a good adult food.

Feed her 1 cup three times a day of an adult food, like Blue Buffalo, Natural Balance, Taste of the Wild, etc. try grain free, it might help her digest her food better and in return you will have less stools. I don't particularly like Iams, but that is only my opinion. 

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Amy and Sophia

Hard to transition

How hard to transition? Afraid of tummy upset and then a real mess. I have my hands full trying to potty train and messes in her crate. 

The breeder suggested the iams. My husband wanted blue buffalo 

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Not hard if done correctly.

Just intro the new feed slowly. You should be able to be halfway in 4 days, all the way transitioned in 8. Try giving her a teaspoon of plain, non-fat yogurt twice daily, it will help her tummy stay in balance.

Nlue Buffalo is a very good feed. I would go slowly, it can be quite rich. And stay at about 25% protein. 

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Agree with Amy

I don't like Iams either. Not one of the better dog foods out there.

I'm a raw feeder.

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Waking is good

she doesn't want to be in her poop. So set your alarm for 1 am and take her out.

Is she drinking lots of water after 7:00p? If so I would without water about an hour before you put her to bed. (unless she's been playing hard, then she needs a little to drink). Puppies her age can tend to gorge themselves with water so limiting it will help with her sleeping at night.

You said bringing her up with you. Does that mean you have been bringing her into the bed with you? If you do that there is no going back with a bulldog, they are stubborn and will put up a fuss forever if you teach them this early. I personally like mine to learn to sleep in their crates, then after 6 months or so I will let them sleep with me. BUT .. I always make it a point to also make them go to the crate at times. That way you haven't totally spoiled them and they will learn to be well adjusted and sleep anywhere.

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Ha! I made that mistake with Sophie. She is 7.5....

Years old and now it is HER bed and I am her slave! I am told when to pick her up and put her on the bed. I am told which tiny space I get to sleep in. She rules it all!!!

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Yeah I quickly noticed that.

Yeah I quickly noticed that. When she gets ready for a nap she comes over to me and looks at me or tries to climb up. She wants me to hold her when she sleeps. Nope!!  I put her in her bed with her favorite toys. Happy girl. 

Haha!!

I stopped that quickly until she's potty trained. That's why I want crate her. I pull water by 6. Run her around but not to the point of excess. I emailed the breeder to find out how much potty training she has done. She doesn't hint or tell me or whine or anything. Guessing game. But I do take her put after she eats and naps.