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I am think Sparky needs some training.

I dont know if you guys know what "Sit means Sit" dog training company is. But they use the whole shock collar training method. They have a dog board ing package where they take the dog for 2 weeks and all this jazz. I got a live demo from them and the dogs the had out the where shappards retrevers and such. My question is should I go ahead with this training for my bullie. do the take well to training?

IndyBulldog™'s picture

Good idea

Just try the shock collar on yourself first, never know maybe it's you.

Steve

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Céline and Angel Stella's picture

Training good. Shock collar bad.

I was at the vet recently and a woman was there with her dog, for whom she had bought a shock collar to help him stop barking.  Well the thing burned a huge ring around his neck!  It was just horrible, the woman was a mess and so was the dog!

Bullies love to go to training class and are good learners because they are eager to please.  I, personally, think it's better to go yourself to the class because he learns to listen to YOU and not some guy at a training facility who isn't there ever again.  It's a great opportunity to bond with your dog because you're both doing something fun together.  And you'll learn tricks to help you keep training him at home or in the park.

I would never do the shock collar thing.

Peggy and Stoney's picture

Perfectly Put Celine!

Great advice.

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Peggy and Stoney's picture

Fully agree with Celine

No Shock Collar. Please

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Shannon and Winston's picture

Bullies need positive reinforcement, not shock collars!

No!  Don't use this company, they sound like a horrifying place.  Bullies (well all dogs actually) need positive reinforcement training.  You don't want your dog to fear you...those dynamics never end well.

Additionally, you want to be actively involved in training your dog.  Not just send them to "boot camp" and expect them to come home as perfectly trained and responsive animals.  I've found that a lot of the training is about teaching the human how to relate, read and interact with the dog.  If you don't take the time to learn how to relate to your bully, how will you ever get him to do what you want?

I say look elsewhere, there are wonderful positive reinforcement programs out there...you just have to keep looking!

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Peggy and Stoney's picture

You might want to look up your local kennel club

They probably have obedience training classes.  I have been taking Stoney since he was small and he loves it.  He knows the night we go and is waiting by the door to go.  He loves when we practice at home.  He is the first dog that I have trained and I have always had dogs, but the training has made all the difference.  If your local club has no classes do a search on google, I'm sure you can come up with a better solution.

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blondiek237's picture

We loved going to classes

with Jax and Ozzy--it was a special bonding experience.  Ozzy took to training better than Jax, but Jax is a more outgoing dog.  We still work with them at home and Ozzy loves seeing the training treats come out. 

Lyn

Deb and MacKenzie and Ester's picture

Do this...Enroll YOURSELF in their program

put that shock collar on yo9ur neck, have them zap you everytime they want something done and see how happy and well trained you will be.

Then I hope you can answer your own question.  If you care about your dog then find a trainer who uses positive reinforcement training and enroll you and the dog.  If you don't have the time and love to do the training right, then find the nearest rescue and surrender Sparky so they can find a him a new owner that does. Shock collars have no place on a bulldogs neck. 

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Shock collars will do nothing but reinforce fear.

Please stay away from these. 

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karonelaine's picture

I agree with everyone

do we beat or kids to teach them? i hope not our dogs are the same way. I get e-mails from them but i dont hurting anything  do i just skip it. I would be dam if anyone going to tell me I have to hurt a dog to teach them anything,

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On a positive note

Going to class with your bully can be a very fun and rewarding experience for BOTH of you.  We really enjoy our classes and Kippah knows what night they are and is always excited to go.  In fact I get a little embarrassed because part of the classes are teaching the dog to walk on a loose leash properly, and then to heal when you command.  When we go anywhere she walks right along side me, and when I give her the heal command she comes a little closer to my right foot and walks according to my stride.  BUT, not when we go into her class, she is a complete gorilla!   She is pulling on the leash, so excited to get to her classroom!

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I agree that the shock collar is not a good idea, BUT you asked if yoru bulldog was trainable and YES it is!  YOU can train your dog, and if you don't have experience then you should seek the help of the professionals that do positive reinforcement training.  Every vet would have a suggestion, even your larger pet store chains have trainers.  We went to Petsmart only because the gal there has a fantastic reputation in our city.  And we are not disappointed!  By summertime Kippah will complete her CGC (Canine Good Citizen certification)  And we hope to be able to take her into the Children Hospital and the nursing homes to love on people.

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IndyBulldog™'s picture

Sorry

I feel I kinda set the tone on this and I wrote before I thought.

I wouldn't use the shock collar and I don't think anyone else here would either.

You only asked and I didn't give an answer, I responded in anger.  Wish I could tell you I'm nicer after I have my coffee, but sadly I'm not...lol

I hope I didn't ruin your attempt the get help for training your dog or to reach out to the good people here on BDW,

I feel everyone here only wants the best for others dogs, and I think my gruff manner let everyone down.

I also have to admit my dogs aren't very well trained, but they do better if I use treats [frozen raw beef liver] , or what you feed, to help them have a reason to do what a crazy human wants them to do.

 

Steve

 

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Shock collar BAD IDEA....... find someone who does positive

reinforcement training.  Go to APDT site for names.  You want your dog to bond with you and enjoy the training not resent you for harsh unfair corrections.  If your boss at work was harsh and never praised you for your efforts just corrected your mistakes-  would you work as hard or have a want to give you more type attitude??? What if you were always rewarded for your efforts - would you not want to try harder to please.  Just a thought.... 

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Big fat NO on the shock collar training....

I can't believe shock collar training is allowed anywhere so my opinion on that is a big fat NOOOO!!!!  But, great that you want to enroll in training.  I think you should contact your local rescue or bulldog club to see if they can recommend any trainers to you.  I will say that I also disagree with the training where you drop your dog off at "bootcamp" and then you pick it up all fixed and trained.  I think a HUGE part of training is the human learning as well, heck I think that is almost more important than the dog learning.  You need to learn how to work with your dog first and foremost.  We are expecting a baby and recently had a trainer come over and work with us and one of our bullies (he likes toys A LOT).  He picked things up so quickly from her and honestly my husband and I learned so much as well and we would have never known any of that had we sent him off to be "trained".  So again, here is what I would recommend, contact your local bulldog rescue or club and ask for trainer recommendations and always use positive reinforcement training. Even the method that Cesar Milan or whatever his name is uses aren't recommended for bulldogs.  Good luck!   

It is so much more fun to take classes

together. You both learn a lot about each other. Positive training works wonders. You don't want to use aversives/punishment/pain, on your little buddy, that's just no way to teach. Sparky trusts you to be good and fair to him, don't break that trust.

Go to the APDT site, you can find a trainer to help you out.

Good luck

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Jacinda and the bullies's picture

I would never use shock collar training

Positive reinforcement training works best in my opinion. I believe training classes where the owner particpates helps to train you both and improves the bond between dog and owner.