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I am so mad at Mr.Higgins

I should not be, I know because dogs don`t think like we do. He has a fear reaction to fast moving things and loses his brain. Usuallly he is on his harness, but first thing this morning it was the martingale collar out of my laziness. A fast loud truck went by and he lost it. He lunged at it and then did a quick roll on the groung and he was free! It made me fall straight back onto the ground and he went for the truck. It stopped right away. I could have just killed him. I am all bruised and scraped up. To make matters worse, he did not come when I called him and he ALWAYS comes. So then I figured he would be hit by a car on the street. He eventually came to me.

How bad is it that I sort of wished he would be hit by a car. I don`t feel that way anymore. Here is my plan.

1) always have the harness on him outside

2) always take treats with me outside to throw at him if he doesn`t come.

3) get out the clicker and treats and do training on total recall with him (again) and make it fun.

4) get back in the house whenever that truck rolls by again.

5) I am still really mad at him but I love him so very much. I have work to do.

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Dave and Zapper's picture

How bad is it that I sort of wished he would be hit by a car...

That's real bad no matter what the situation. I can't quite wrap my head around that logic :(

dave

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I agree...that is horrible logic. :(

No matter how bad the situation is I would never wish that on my pets. 

tmichaud's picture

Yikes.. I'm with you Dave.

No matter what he's done (and believe me Sanford is pretty obstinate and spoiled) there is NO WAY I would ever think like that because my life would be wrecked if anything happened to him. 

I know you were and are frustrated with Mr. Higgins but you need to find another manner in which to curb your frustration.  What you put out there into the universe is what you will get back which is why I am very careful of the thoughts I let manifest in my brain.  I have been injured by my dog before but I don't blame him for his actions... he was playing and it was too rough but it's my fault, not his because I engaged him in the activity. 

Take a deep breath and try to relax and take comfort in the fact that he is ok and didn't get hurt.  I would get rid of all collars and leashes that don't work for you and him and make sure you are present in every moment when you take him out if he is that sensitive to noise etc it's up to you to ensure he is safe and secure.  It means you will always be on guard but that's the way it is.  Sanford doesn't like to be introduced to other dogs when he is leashed so it's my job to make sure that other dogs do not approach him when he is leashed which means I am always on guard but I view that as me doing my job to ensure he is happy and safe.

My two cents.  Trish~

Whaaaaat, are you kidding me?????

With thinking like that, poor Mr. Higgins should be removed from your care.  I can't believe that no matter what he has done and believe me, mine have done plenty, that you could ever use that as an excuse for thinking or maybe I should say lack of thinking on your part for wishing harm could come to him.  It makes me wonder ... what the heck is wrong with you?   I really think you should consider turning him over to rescue where he could go to a home with people that would love him the way he should be loved, unconditionally.  Oh, btw, I cannot for the life of me imagine how he could get out of a properly fitting martingale. It would automatically tighten up while he was rolling.

vio's picture

Poor Mr.Higgins:(

I know life is no always easy with a bulldog but unfortunately, in this case I think your are at fault.

Maggie Porkchop and Bubba's picture

I'm so mad....

Lurker here but had to chime in on this one. There has been more than once when one or both of our two bullies have momentarily pushed me to the "edge". Not once have I caused them harm or wished them harm. I am thinking you posted your thought about being hit by a car because you are looking for help. Do you have anger managment issues? If so you could be a danger not only to Mr. Higgins but also to others. Suggestions from others about rehoming Mr. Higgins, if you decided that to be an appropriate action, isn't going to solve an underlying problem.

All that being said, perhaps you feel very comfortable expressing your honest self and did not expect the reactions you are receiving. Either way, please remember Mr. Higgins is just a dog (even though I treat mine like my kids) and doesn't have the same judgment capabilites we do as humans. It is our job not to just love them but protect them from all harm. 

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Venting frustration is ok, if its only venting !

I'm sorry, I'm in the minority again here -

I feel that you are angry and upset with Mr. Higgins and yourself, and I dont think (as some other posters do) that you truely mean him harm with your comment - as you were saying it in retrospect -

Come on folks, get off of your high horses - you can NOT tell me that you never "wished XXXXXX would happend to someone to teach them a lesson' ???

The Motorcyclist pulling wheelings going down the expressway - you've never thought 'I hope he wrecks cause he deserves it'

The neighborhood kid, who is the neighborhood bully. - You've never thoughts 'I hope one day someone beats the crap out of him' and then maybe he'll learn ?

The drunk who is always driving - 'I hope he gets into an accident someday, but just not hurt anyone else'

*IF* You have *NEVER* had a similar thought through you mind, then my appologies to you, and I bow down to you, because you are a better person than I am.

One of our members here, is crying out in frustration, and venting, and you want to crucify this person? rehome Mr. Higgins? I mean COME ON FOLKS! - they didnt say they tied Mr. Higgins up to a bumper of a car to be hit in traffic, or anything of the sort.

Ok, off of my soapbox - and NO I am not defending ANYONE mistreating ANYONE - but a cry of frustration, is obvious to me.

(back to Lurker mode)

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my thoughts exactly Rick...

you just posted before I could. I would also add that right after that sentence "Is it bad that I wished he had been hit by a car" was this one, "I don't feel that way anymore."

I'm sorry that you Mr. Higgins put you through that this morning and you got banged up not only by falling but by some of the comments on here too.

((((HUGS)))) for both you and Mr. Higgins.

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Dave and Zapper's picture

Well, don't ask the question if you don't want the answer

He asked, I gave my opinion. And I stick by it. For that thought to even run through his mind is troubling to me.

dave

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Stephanie and David's picture

I think is was just phrased badly

No one every wants the bulldog they love to be hurt. Perhaps, "I wish he's get scared by a big ol' truck so he wouldn't go after them anymore," would be more of what was meant.

1sttimebully's picture

I was thinking the same thing....

sometimes you just get so scared for them and it comes out wrong.

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Vancouver, Canada

Venting frustration is ok. "Not when it comes to our pets."

I'm sorry, I'm in the minority again here - Hopefully you will stay in the minority and most everybody else will be in the majority and be concerned about the safety of this bullie.  Don't tell me you never heard or saw anything about dogs being abused. Wonder when and how that starts.

I feel that you are angry and upset with Mr. Higgins and yourself, and I dont think (as some other posters do) that you truely mean him harm with your comment - as you were saying it in retrospect - I cannot recall anybody ever wishing harm especially to that extent to any animal that they truly loved and cared about.

Come on folks, get off of your high horses - you can NOT tell me that you never "wished XXXXXX would happend to someone to teach them a lesson' ???  First of all, I have been on quite a few high horses and some no so high as a former rodeo queen and I'm happy to say that is where I will stay when it comes to animal abuse. Well now, as far as people go, that's another story. 

The Motorcyclist pulling wheelings going down the expressway - you've never thought 'I hope he wrecks cause he deserves it'  NO, I haven't wished that. 

The neighborhood kid, who is the neighborhood bully. - You've never thoughts 'I hope one day someone beats the crap out of him' and then maybe he'll learn ?  Yes, I have.. I don't tolerate bullying of any species..

The drunk who is always driving - 'I hope he gets into an accident someday, but just not hurt anyone else'  No.

*IF* You have *NEVER* had a similar thought through you mind, then my appologies to you, and I bow down to you, because you are a better person than I am.  I usually just wish that they "$h!t themselves".. wouldn't that be nice..  you on the other hand seem to have issues with wishing people get hurt.  Never a good thing as far as I am concerned.

One of our members here, is crying out in frustration, and venting, and you want to crucify this person? rehome Mr. Higgins? I mean COME ON FOLKS! - they didnt say they tied Mr. Higgins up to a bumper of a car to be hit in traffic, or anything of the sort. Is that what you have to wait for??? You want to see Mr. Higgings actually hurt and bleeding before you would step in to defend an animal???  Crucify, no.  Rehome, yes.

Ok, off of my soapbox - and NO I am not defending ANYONE mistreating ANYONE - but a cry of frustration, is obvious to me.  So then they should go get professional help.  None of us are qualified to give the kind of help needed here.  My worry is about the dog.  Don't you wonder why he didn't want to come running when called.  Doubt that I would have either.  Oh, please be careful when you step of your soapbox that you don't fall in the washing machine.. Remember what I wish happens to people.  lol

(back to Lurker mode)

I bow down to the Rodeo Queen -

She's a much better person than most of us serfs

*Please pass the fabric softener*

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alisonjmorgan's picture

Thumbs up

well said. I agree!

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alisonjmorgan's picture

to all the passion

that every one has for their fur babies.

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animal005's picture

Everyone please stop the madness

I just read through the post and boy everyone is having a rough day. :)  It seems to be a lot of people bullying here in the threads.   I hope that Mr.Higgins owner really doesn't wish harm to him.  I hope that it was just a poor choice of words used in frustration (when typing) and if it was really thought about it wouldn't have been said.  It's far easier to type something you normally wouldn't say.    Let's all do some breathing exercises shall we:

Breathe in through the nose and out through the mouth (repeat for a minute).  Everybody relaxed, good.

"If you can, help others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them." - Dalai Lama

O.K.

you're right.

Wow, you had a bad moment

and that's all it was.

Sounds like you have a good plan of action, stick to it.

I had a dog that hated and I mean hated diesel engines, anything with a diesel. Like your Mr. Higgins, she was go nuts at the approach and try to chase. Luckily, she only got to chase once, that was enough. So, I started to desensitize her to the sound. When we were out walking and I could hear a truck approaching and before she went into kill mode, I would walk her way off the road and rapidly feed treats to her so she would ignore the truck. At the same time, I was teaching her to wave. Slowly, I worked on getting her closer to the road and still be able to ignore the trucks while I was giving her really yummy treats. She learned that diesel engines meant treats were coming. Eventually, we could stay by the side of the road in a sit position and on command, she would wave at those going by. Took a lot of time.

Good luck and hug the brat for me.

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mrhig2004's picture

my goodness

Has anyone ever said something they did not mean at all? I was freaked when he was off leash and on the road. I would die if anything happened to him. He has never been yelled at in his life, or punished in any way. He has taken 5 training courses and is the sweetest  bully ever.

I have been posting here for 8 years now. Sometimes to get advice with his many health issues and sometimes I can help others who are going through what I have also been through. I have been in bulldogs since 1996 and love my boy no less than anyone ese, that is for sure.

Just do a search on "Mr. Higgins" and there are many many posts by me regarding this sweet bully. Also in the archives, since I began here in 2004. Some here know me, some do not. Those who know me would not have taken it too seriously.

He almost always wears a Premiere Sure Fit harness because he has escaped from most other harnesses and collars.

A few years ago I hired a behaviourist (Joan Weston here in Ontario) about the behaviour. She told me when he has his mind fixed on something and it is a" fear reaction" there is no fix for it. He has lost his brain as she puts it. I have attended her seminar "Reactive Rover" and learned a lot about reactive dogs. He would ignore the best treat even a piece of chicken in my hand. So I always attempt to avoid those situations (like a fast motorcycle, loud fast car, train, etc.)

 I did describe my plan earlier, which will not stop the behaviour but at least I can work on the total recall. It saved his life another time when he got through my legs and out the door to chase the snowplow. It stops my heart when he is out there no collar, leash, can you even imagine? It has only happened twice now.

I am not perfect ,but said something really stupid  because I had a very scary experience thinking he was in danger.

I LOVE MY MR. HIGGINS!!!!!       o.k guys?

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And so do we :)

We love Mr. Higgins - and all of the work you have done with him and for him.

(I think I just heard some plunks of people falling off of their high horses) :-P

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Rick, I am taking the high road on this one..

Tell me, did my wish for you come true???

Not sure Kathie - havent checked the lottery tickets :-)

:-)

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hahahaha, no, check your pants..lol

;)

OK, I am going to apologize for my possible over reaction

to your post yesterday.  I just cannot and will not tolerate any form of abuse towards animals.  I can see by his pic. that Mr. Higgins is well taken care of.  Please accept my apology to you for over reacting to what was said. 

mrhig2004's picture

thanks!

Not just the pic, when I said he has never been yelled at, or punished, I meant it.  Even when I was mad at him yesterday I never showed it to him and never would. He is innocentt as all animals are.

That martingale is useless. It is the sure fit harness now all the time.

He is my life! No more or less than your bullies are in your lives.

He is almost 8 and I dread when old age hits and I lose him. He needs special care because of health issues and I will not ever take a vacation because he is very attached to me and he needs me. I will never let him down but be there forever for him.

The sweetest bully there ever was in spite of going through 7 surgeries (trying to avoid an 8th), no patella on one side, closed ear canals, on cyclosporin now at $300.00/month. Insurance only paying out 50% due to high calims, my premiums are $191.00/month.

He sees the vet every 2 weeks for an ear check and ear cleaning. He is not allowed in his doggie pool anymore so I had to give it away.

The insurance has paid out more than $38,000.00 in claims for this boy! Do I love him??????

What a bad feeling that my stupid words caused people to think I am mentally unstable and should put him in rescue. Here are a few more stupid words. "I would rather be shot in the head than put him in rescue."  I am not taking that comment back, either.

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Pegsy's picture

ay...mr.higgins...you been a

ay...mr.higgins...you been a bad boy!!! but you're still a cutie pie!!!

smoochies the scrunchy face

onslowsmom's picture

All I am going to say is that my dog WAS hit by a car

and it changed nothing.  He still acts the same.  It was one of the worst and scariest days of my life, i am lucky he lived.  A friend and her children were over that day and one of the little girls let him out of the house by mistake.  It wasn't anyones fault.  He wanted to be outside with the kids.  The little girl shouldn't have gone into my house alone to use the bathroom.  So many things caused it to happen hindsight you know.  It was an accident.  He will still chase if given the chance.  I know what you're going through Momma Higgins but even if he was to get hit it wouldn't change A THING. 

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Wow, that is scary.

I am so happy your dog was o.k., or was he injured?  When the mister got out the first time, he ran between my legs when I opened the door. He knew the snowplow was down the street, however the total recall worked beautifully that time and the snowplow stopped. So that never happens again, I go out the door backwards, and keep treats nearby. If he seems to want to escape, I just throw the treats into the middle of the room.He rarely does it anymore though.

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