Well, CRAP. Gotta take Milton back in for his chin.
Submitted by Miltons Mama on July 8, 2010 - 7:35pmMilton's chin is starting to get red, shiny and puffy again. Vet wants to see him tomorrow. "Might have to add something to that antibiotic, and he might need another injection. But I'm going to have to get a look at it either way before I can decide what's best."
200mg/day doxycycline is not helping whatever's inside my poor dog's mug! Boooooooooooo.
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Milton's Mama -- Tinker AFB, OK
poor Milton!
I hope the vet figures it out soon.
Cathy and Audrey
Sorry to hear it. Milton you're not alone...
Tuffy is dealing with this too. The antibiotics seem to be helping but he has wicked ugly scabs on his chin that are bothersome...
Hope the vet can help your poor boy!
The vet used the evil "P" word and it's more injections.
Pyoderma. Gahhhhhhhhhhhhh, I just hate that word.
Found out the injections previously were an injectible antibiotic and an injectibile corticosteroid (that's the anti-inflammatory). He says that the Doxy should be taking care of the infection but whatever it is that is causing his chin to get inflamed -- which he thinks is our horrible muggy weather combined with just allergens in the air etc. -- needs to be treated so the Dox can do its work. He's very reluctant to have to go to prednisone but we're gonna have to, at least for a while. He's going to try to keep the dose as low as he can that is effective for Milton.
So tomorrow, we go back for another injection of 'anti-inflammatory' (had one today) and then he'll go on oral prednisone, we don't have the pills yet but the vet said maybe we'd start at 10mg a day and move it up or down (hopefully down) from there if it helps the inflammation so his chin can heal.
Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh.
Milton's Mama -- Tinker AFB, OK
could the steroid be causing his wild behavior?
I know with humans, especially my youngest, some meds make her literally bounce off the walls.
That is too bad he has to go back for another injection!
Cathy and Audrey
I don't think so ...
... he was bouncy before the first injection and when he did get the injections he seemed to want to come home and sleep at least for a while. We'll see what happens as we transition him to the oral steroid starting tomorrow, fingers crossed...
Milton's Mama -- Tinker AFB, OK
Stainless Bowls
Are you using stainless bowls for water and food. Are you wiping his chin after he eats and drinks? The acne is very very common in young bulldogs and it will clear up as he gets older.
What kind of shots is your vet giving and why? Has he scraped and cultured to determine if it is staph or a bacteria?
Yes, yes, and yes.
Yes stainless bowls for water and food. Elevated, too.
Yes wipe face after every eat/drink and after every going outside. Plus facewashing with special shampoo and wrinkle cleaning nightly. It's not just plain acne at this point, the vet says it's pyoderma and that the inflammation is being caused by some other factors, among them probably our hot humid weather. boo.
Corticosteroid/antibiotic combination shot, because his chin that had mild acne suddenly broke out in quite large, inflamed, red, shiny, hot-feeling, hairless oozing pustules. He said clearly it started as regular hormonal canine acne (we'd had him in for the acne previously) but it's progressing. The vet is treatng him for a staph infection secondary to pyoderma and is now giving oral prednisone and oral doxycycline to keep down the itching/swelling (steroid) and control the infection (doxy) -- he says we'll be on the medication probably through the fall now.
Thankfully the vet doesn't think it's anything we did or didn't do that caused it, but I live in the central/midwest US and our weather and allergens have just been horrible. He says it's prime weather and prime season for all this and after we get Milton through the first year or so, provided we get it under control, there is a good chance it won't happen again although he said some bulldogs can struggle with it their whole lives if it can't be effectively managed in the first year.
Back to the vet Thursday.
Milton's Mama -- Tinker AFB, OK
Sounds like
you are doing all you can and the vet is uyp on it. Some do get it worse then others and I can believe the weather can be a problem if its hot. Like any staph it will thrive in damp moist warm environments. Cleo had a horrible chin as a puppy and had outbreaks of oozy puffy bole looking things. They cleared up before she turned a year. But I did alot of what you are doing with the exception of all the meds.
Good Luck! He's a cute boy and I love his name.
That's just what his are
Thank you! :D Yeah, that's exactly what it is with him, he gets "oozy puffy boil looking things." That's PRECISELY what they are except with Milton when they start up, they just exponentially get worse within 2-3 days. So I think that's maybe why he's trying to control it with the meds, but he definitely wants to get him off the prednisone as soon as we can.
Thanks for all your help and your Cleo is absolutely lovely too!
Milton's Mama -- Tinker AFB, OK