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rescue health advice

I would appreciate tips anyone has on a rescue I may be fostering that has

1) severe demodex

2) severe malnutrition

3) an infected tail that can't be removed (yet), see above

4) isn't neutered

1: Ivomec for the demo and simplicef for the secondary skin infections caused by the scratching/open wounds. Ketochlor baths 3X. If you have experience with this let me know. I am taking him to my vet and will request whatever he needs, I just need to know what to ask for and 'what is the best'...

2: Food. Can he go raw? How much should I feed him? He weighs 36. Oh yes, you heard me. He could gain 14 pounds and Matilda would still outweigh him by 7. I realize some dogs are 'built smaller' and I haven't seen him in person yet, but my aim is to make him squishy.

3: Tail - as I said, simplicef, the baths, cleaning, and benadryl to help him through the night with scratching. When they can examine it properly, they will. Until then I have to keep it clean and the meds should hopefully help... I am an old pro at this. My hope is that the infection will clear and he won't need the surgery, but who knows.

4: He gets fresh in his temporary home. You know, red rocket, humping, the whole nine yards. It makes sense, he isn't neutered. But do any of you have unaltered males that have gotten over this and live with a female? The one thing that drives Matilda up the wall is dogs trying to hump her. She doesn't get violent, she just gets exhausted with growling at the other one to leave her alone. I remember we went on a play date once where the unaltered male just wouldn't stop. Finally, Matilda left the yard, ran around the house and sat my the car door: Dad, lets go home...

In other words, I want to know if I can train him not to do this until he can get altered and if any of you have dogs you've trained in this regard - I dunno, maybe male show dogs or something. I don't think rescue would let him be adopted out without neutering anyway.

Finally, the most interesting and ridiculous part of this is that he is microchipped. The chip was never registered. I am being purely circumstantial here with regard to that evidence but doesn't it point to someone who paid a significant amount of money for this guy as a pet? Seems so sad.

Anyway, I will update you all when I know more but any advice you have on the points above would make me feel better. For some reason this situation seems significantly scarier than last time, but that could also be that my stress level is elevated in general with other things in my life.

In any case, thanks...

CJ

2bds2010's picture

Rescue

My 2nd rescue guy was also not registered. Hard to believe these people are even "allowed" to purchase a bulldog. Ok. as far as the mange goes we did the baths, except for the fact that I changed it up after the first time. I didnt want to soak the dog in pure poisen. I put the required mixture in a spray bottle and used a wash cloth and sprayed and soaked the areas of mange. Our vet was also doing ivermectin injections 1x a month. Its a long process.....Its a hard process....The dogs immune system is down, stressed and so on. The best WOULD be RAW......

The humping....Oh boy....Good luck with that. Our female was a huge humper. We think she leans the other way...Ya know what I mean. She even partially lifts her leg to pee. She was a hand full and I knew exactly why she was given up. She pushed me to the limits for sure. She is 4 now and a totally different dog.  Getting him fixed will help, but not immediatly. It will also make the mange worse. That is what  triggered the mange in our girl. Its just another stress in his life. Be firm with him when he does it and let him know that is not acceptable. We used to fill a soda can with some pennies and shake it to get her to focus on us again. Once they are in the "zone" its hard to get them out of it.......

You are a great person for giving this guy a better life. Keep up the good work.

 

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OMG you are truly an angel to help this guy!

I can give my experiences, if it helps, great. Rex is not neutered. Long story, we've had him since he was 12 weeks old, but we never got him fixed. I know all the risks. He prefers little children to hump, great I know. For some reason he is insulted by a small spray bottle of water. It is the only thing that stops him from humping. It is the oddest thing. I say NO and spray the top of his head with one gentle little squirt, and he gets all insulted and rejected looking and runs and hides. I am talking ONE little squirt, not a forceful blast from a hose! (P.S. that he loves) This dog has NEVER had anything bad happen to him, has never been mistreated, has never been left with anyone and I do not understand why he reacts this way to a water spray bottle, but he does.  Perhaps you could try that with your rescue guest. I cannot think of anything else but having a a separate private area where Matilda can get some peace from the guy if you cant get him to stop. Once we had a puppy visit and puppy teeth hurt and Rex didnt get nasty but tried to run away and looked at me like, "Yes I have had enough, I need my own space in MY HOUSE."

It sounds like you got the skin thing covered. Everything you mentioned is what I have gone through with Rex, except I dont like to give him benadryl because it makes him sleepy, so i have a script from the vet for hydroxyzine. I've heard Claritin works too, but NOT the Claritin D - is poison to dogs, so I've read. but i stick with the hydroxzine and he stops itching in 15 minutes and doesnt get sleepy. I know there are differences of opinions with giving antibiotics and antifungal meds, but I do believe if he is as bad as he sounds, it may be the best for his situation. Every dog is different. With Rex cephalexin seemed to help when his skin got bad, but he never got as bad as this little guy sounds with open wounds.

Not sure what kind of tail issue your rescue has, but Rex has a button with deep pockets and i wipe with a baby wipe every few days, clean it good and dry good when he gets his weekly bath and he has never had a problem since he was a puppy and I didnt know about tail pockets. Talk about on the job training. Sounds like you know what you are doing.

It is unbelievable about the microchip. But it is only as good as the information on their computers. I checked Rex's and they had the wrong contact info. It was just one more thing that I figured I better double check, because it seems like i have to watch what everybody elses jobs are to make sure that it is done right. And it is a good thing, because if he was lost, they never would have found us. Not sure what you can do at this point if there in no info on him. I know there are different microchip companies, I am wondering if all companies were checked??

i know nothing about raw feeding, sorry.

I hope the others can be of more help. Good luck with the little guy and God bless you for helping him. Hugs to sweet Matilda :-)

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Jllian and PorkChop and our beloved BullyAngel Rex <3

judy wilson's picture

my advise

on the mange...its casued by stress and the immuntiy system will drop allowing the mites to increase....raw is the best for him...add some pure honey 1/2 teaspoon this is a immunity booster go every other day...a teasppon of yogurt plain will also help...then 500mg of vit c once a day....one cod liver tab a day for the omega in it....these all will help build his immunity...i would also use a spray bottle and not bath in posion...

as for the humping...if he is crate trained..when ever he starts to hump just calmly say no and put him in his crate for at least 15 min...he will get the idea...my intact male does not hump becasue he knows that a 15min time out and he hates to be put in his crate....

the most important things for a rescue is routine...its some thing they never had....

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considerations

Thanks for all of the advice. I think I'm pretty up on the wound care so that should be okay and thank you for all the messages about various things to try. And as for routine I'm all about the routine. :) It definitely helped my first rescue guy.

I think you are all correct, the important thing is to let Matilda have some space if she gets tired of him. I am told that he does not get up on furniture, that should make her happy. She was mortally offended with the last guy trying to get up on the couch and sit next to her. I've just never been around an intact male dog and the dogs of other breeds in my neighborhood are all unaltered pit bulls. I guess I just want to know what to watch for but I'll try to reinforce the right behavior at home. Hopefully that will help.

And, according to the woman that has him right now, he does sleep and rest in his crate without complaint so that should be okay.

My worry about feeding him raw is switching him and then him being adopted and them switching him back. I dunno, I guess I cross that bridge when I come to it...? Or my vet freaking out. I also don't know that I am ready to start doing my own raw - I would have to - since I can't afford to put two dogs on Nature's Variety when he would prob need to eat a crazy amount of food.

I guess I just don't feel as comfortable as I did the first time and i'm not sure why. I suppose it is because I remember when I first had Matilda and knew nothing...she had a yeast infection and an itchy tail and I remember her getting out of bed every ten minutes to wake me up. I just want him to be as comfortable as possible and not put the house (me, him, and Matilda) through any more stress than is necessary. Life has been hard for him, but it was for her too, when she was young. 

We will see how it goes, I guess.

 

 

 

Hey Dad, you will

do just fine, I'm sure of it!

Really, you can't go wrong with raw, and doing your own is not that difficult.

After following your posts, I have complete faith in you. 

Even if you just toss a chicken back a few times a week, that will be a treat beyond measure.

I love that you are so willing and conscientious!

Much love to you and yours!!!

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Kofi and Carol

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