Raw Diet Question: Red Yeast & Hormones?
Submitted by Katie and Chumlee MN on January 15, 2011 - 2:22pmIf your dog had red yeast issues such as a red yeasty tail, paws and red tear stains before you started feeding raw what did you notice getting better first?
And about how long did it take for the improvement?
Can red yeast issues becaused by hormones? He is 11 months old :/
We went back to raw Thursday with no grinder this time he is enjoying crunching and munching his bones and has had very nice poops.
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Katie & Chumlee
Audrey has red tear stains
they used to smell yeasty but now they only do after about 6 days of no washing (I timed it).
She never had red paws or tail, but she did lick her paws, constantly.
The smell went away very quickly. The paw licking was intermittant for a long time until I eliminated EVERYTHING not animal out of her diet.
She still has tear stains. I know she has stains because her eyes water, and I am pretty sure her eyes water because of the way her nose rope squishes them, especialy when she plays with her ball. I won't take her ball away though, because she never scratches her face anymore or shows any signs whatsoever that her eyes are uncomfortable.
Cathy and Audrey
Tear stains are not always food related
I think they are most of the time but, not always. Tear stains can also be caused by the water or by something wrong with like such as blocked tear ducts.
It is VERY frustrating!
I know it's not the water because we tried spring water and she always gets filtered water. I have had my vet check her eyes very very thoroughly every single time he saw her for any reason, and he never found anything blatantly obvious.
She plays very rough with her ball, she squishes her face against furniture. Just by putting the ball in her mouth causes her lips to push against her nose rope which pushes against her eye which makes her eyes water. I am SURE that the actual structure if her eye lids and lashes are the root cause of the watering, but it's not something that is so obvious or so severe that it needs to be surgically corrected. The stains fade if we keep her ball away from her, but never really disappear.
That dang ball is more important to her than food, so I won't keep it from her to keep her face cleaner.
I tried Angel's Eyes which did effectively kill the bacteria on her skin and cleared up the stains, but I know it also killed the good bacteria and could not justify keeping her on it. She also has a very sensitive stomach and would vomit anything but the simplest food. She can actually eat a cooked piece of steak now and keep it down, and I wonder if the extended use of an antibiotic destroyed the beneficial bacteria in her digestive tract and that palyed a huge role in her food sensitivities. She doesn't need probiotics anymore either.
Cathy and Audrey
He gets bottled water
He was just at the vet and he doesn't have blocked tear ducts. And he has all three places affected by red yeast tail, paws, and tear stains. She said to change his diet completely. Yesterday when I was trimming his nails I noticed his paws were a little better already this is why I asked the question.
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Katie & Chumlee
The staining could be from a protein
I've tried several different proteins with my dogs and so far, lamb works best for tear stains.
Such as
Beef and liver because of iron content right? Do you feed them raw?
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Katie & Chumlee
Iron?
hmmmm......
Audrey eats mostly beef and does get liver of course. Her coat though is just amazing, it got even shinier and a richer color when we started giving her mostly beef instead of pork.
She still gets chicken for the bone, but the bulk of her diet is beef. I don't know if it's the iron making her tear stains because she has always had them.
Cathy and Audrey
I sometimes feed raw
But it's not really practical with 7 dogs. I've tried several different proteins of both Natural Balance and Taste of the Wild and the lamb variety of both foods was the best for my dogs. I'm not sure if the iron is the cause because my dogs had tear stains on chicken as well.
when we first switched her to raw
we tried single source protein for 6 weeks at a time. So far for her nothing has really made much of a difference except for keeping her ball away from her. Even then it lightens them, but does not elimintae them entirely.
Cathy and Audrey
When you say back to raw
how long was he off of it? And how'd they do without their bones ground?
Cathy and Audrey
Chumlee the Chomper
Almost 2 months roughly don't remember exactly the date sometime after Thanksgiving.
Chumlee tried to swallow his chicken quarter whole the first time I offered it to him that way now I chop them in 5 pieces and offer one piece at a time and he chews them. Shorty chews hers like a pro every time over her bowl :)
Skasqueeeeeeakaaay!!
Katie & Chumlee