Pepto for diarhea?
Submitted by AmyandSophia on July 17, 2011 - 12:43amSophie has had loose stools for 4 days now after eating something in the yard. Can I give her Pepto Bismol, and at 47 pounds, how much?
Thanks in advance!
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Amy and Sophia
I would use Immodium...
I think Pepto has aspirin in it. And a bland diet, hamburger, rice, etc. We always keep DiaBac on hand too, that works wonders on loose stools but you have to order it online. Hope she feels better soon.
I would use Immodium...
I think Pepto has aspirin in it. And a bland diet, hamburger, rice, etc. We always keep DiaBac on hand too, that works wonders on loose stools but you have to order it online. Hope she feels better soon.
sorry
computer gremlins at work.
Thanks Kathy, I will see about Immodium.
Hopefully her tummy will feel better soon! I have the ground beef and rice already, planned on that for her breakfast. Not sure what is really behind this problem.
Amy and Sophia
yes
Amy i have use it. one teaspoon is all igive. hope she doing better sorry to hear this.
Karonelaine
canned pumpkin
its the.. raw side of me sorry..i would go with canned pumpkin and when you have four sb kids...you learn what works most natural and very very fast....
Thanks Judy:-)
She seems better today. I am going to check out the Whole Foods market for canned pumpkin, our regular grocery stores don't have it. They have pie pumpkin.
When I had Isabella, the slightest change in diet would so aggravate her bowels. Her poor bottom was so raw if that happened. So I was careful not to disturb her!! She was totally incontinent from SB. Are all of yours? Do any have any control ability?
Amy and Sophia
the raw diet is a miracle to my sb
i have four sb.....they poop twice a day....i do use a bit more bone than the 10% i go maybe 15 to 20% to keep them firm...... i do get the once in a while poop....but thats all.....and the males lift their legs and empty their bladders really great...so leaking is not a problem with them.....the girls are much much harder as they dont go out and empty their bladders.....but the raw has so much moisture they get their water intake from it and not in the water bowl constantly..... with 6 bulls i fill their water bowl maybe twice a day.....so raw has been a miracle with me ..... and for them....i have had no uti"s....i have been very lucky....
Judy May I ask what ur recipe is on the Raw diet?
nm
ok....
its not easy to give you an exact diet becasue i dont feed to the exact rule of 80 % meat 10% bone and 10% organ
but a normale feeding
am: 1/2 lb of chicken (or beef or any meat i have come across) one cod liver tab
noon : feeding ground up liver i use chicken or turkey as wilson has a allergy to beef liver.... 1 or 2 chicken necks not ground up....or lamb ribs
pm: feeding 1 lb of meat..once or twice a week i add honey (all natural with combs in it) honey is a natural immune booster....
now i play with this alot....sometimes i come across a big beef heart and that goes in....some times i will \put in blueberries....once a week i put in a cup of salmon..for the omega in it....raw diet is a fun diet....you cant go wrong....for bone i also use lamb ribs...if the dogs are getting to much bone their poop turns white and i go 2 or 3 days without bone....you cannot screw up a raw diet....if their is any part of the diet to worry about is to much organ...that can casue tummy upset loose stools.......i like to give my dogs alot of variety when is comes to meat....this is why i am starting to raise rabbits...hope this helps....a bit if your starting on raw and have a specific question let me know
Thank you, still pondering the idea. sounds expensive but
atleast you know whats in it - cuz you NEVER know whats really in the dog food.....
I feed raw and will never go back
Gunther always had loose stools and bad skin along with yeast problems. On raw, all is good. No more skin probems and no yeast and perfect stools. He has been on raw for 8 months. I feed beef, pork, fish, rabbit, venison and chicken as well as prepared patties by Vital Essentials.
Maggie
heard good things about
vital...but at 30 to 34 $ a package i was put off.... but i have bought them .....the dogs loved them and their stools stayed firm.....maybe as a treat every now or then....
so glad to hear the positive for gunther......
I pay less
Actually I pay 20$ a package for the 6lbs wich is 12 8oz patties. I feed one meal a day of meat and bone and one of patties. I have 3 dogs, Gunther the bulldog, Oliver the schnauzer, Deogie the shaggy mutt. Gunther is 50lbs, Oliver is 25lbs, Deogie is 35lbs. My vet bill has gone down. Gunther was always at the vet's office for loose stools or skin infections buy not anymore.
Maggie
expense i have 6 bulls
and it cost me about 180 a month some times less than that as i do buy in bulk.i also belong to a co op so sometimes i go 2 or 3 months without buying anything...unless i see a great deal at the grocery store.....i pay 30 cents a lb for chicken.....100 necks cost me 6 dollars......200 hearts are about 10 bucks....i think your big expense is a freezer and a good grinder....
but also i no longer use heartworm meds.....or flea products.....non of my crew has ever needed dental work.....i see the vet once a year becasue i believe in a physical andI want to make sure i have a place to go in case wouldof an emergency....
i would put cost a second worry....becasue you will be saving yourself alot of money in the long run.....you dont have to be fancy just keep your diet simple....
when most people worry about money its really about bone.....get some chiken necks and give one to your dog....he wont die i promise you....do it once or twice a week..... on sat get some boneless chicken give it to him....just on saturdays.....dont dive into it get use to it...get use to the idea slowly
and steadly......cost is only what you make of it.......
others will be adding in their ideas....read what they have done...and what it cost them.....
THANKS JUDY!!!! I will try some chicken necks & stuff
nm
Amount ??
is my biggest question. It seems they are eating so little. Ester actually gained weight. She is about 50 lbs and I was giving her about 10 ounces is all and she's gained on that. I was feeding only 6 ounces to her of the pre-packaged Natures Variety raw patties. Those are per day amts. So far I have only done ground chicken (1/2 quarters and whole chickens) and some chopped breasts and beef. They get bones to chew on on the weekends. I just feel like I'm starving them. I plan on stopping by the butcher this weekend for some liver. I can buy it frozen sliced.
I love the less poo, so much I think the water intake is even less then on the pre-packaged raw.
And I think It's going to cost me less then I was actually thinking. I was spending well over $300 bucks a month for 3 dogs.
I feed 2% of his weight
When he was a puppy I use to feed 3% but now he is over a year old so I cut down to 2%. You feed less because there is less wast in the food all the meat is taken up by the body. Dogs can't digest alot of what is in comercial dry food so they poop it out. That is why there is why you give less yet they gain weight.
Maggie
Not on Commercial Dry Food
They have not been on dry kibble for 2 years. They have been on pre-packaged raw.
for my guys
wilson is 56 lbs he gets about 1 to 1 1/2 lbs a day charlie is 59 and gets a bit more.... Henery.is a young boy 10 months so he gets 2 to 3 lbs a day as he is a growing boy...if she is gaining its becasue the body is using what it needs....it will change as her body regulates it self to the raw and she will start losing weight....remember she does not have all that filler in reg dog food so you think its less than normale becasue of what you use to feed....thats why i like feeding two or three times a day.....dogs get alot of satisfaction from eating.....
as for cost you will get the hang of things as you go along and the cost goes down.....i was the same way when i first started the cost was out rageoue then i got finding bargains and joined a co op.....
Point Missed
I think you are missing my point and my question. They have been on raw for 2 years (just pre-packaged) and Ester at 50 lbs was only getting 6 oz a day. I'm very aware that they utilize raw more then commercial dog food (ie kibble) and usually lose weight. BUT my point is they are not losing weight and I'm feeding very little. I'm trying to keep the weight off her because she is too heavy for the ring and needs to drop a couple of lbs, BUT if I feed 2% of her body weight she is going to be a fat piggie. She gets walked about 30 minutes a day. I have cut her back to 8 oz per day BUT according to what everyone else is feeding that is not much at all and I feel like I'm starving them. I don't want them malnutritioned and I don't want them fat.
Kohl is only getting about 1 lb a day and he is 65 lbs and he's not losing any weight on that.
The cost at $300 is for the Natures Variety pre-packaged raw. I have already cut my cost inhalf with buying just chicken and beef and I do have some pork in the freezer. I'm planning on joining a co-op as soon as I get into my new house.
So my question is --- am I starving them with so little food?
Are you taking the
skin off the chicken? Also, chicken backs are a good place to start because of being bone heavy in the beginning. I crushed them at first, but now Kofi has learned to chew and I just toss them whole.
No skin
and I pull off the white fat. I'll try more bone (ie back) during the week. When she gets bones on the weekend her poo is white and crumbly.
I answered below before I saw this
Ester really may be one who's body is going to hoarde the carbs as fat.
If she is getting (x) ounces of food, and out of that comes (Y) calories of the energy source her body uses best [which is the natural animal fat] BUT that (Y) is not really enough; and the rest of the energy source is carbs that she can NOT use as well, instead of burning through the carbs HER body is storing it.
In humans, it would be like a person not eating enough to fuel their body properly, so insetad of utilizing all the fuel available their body hoardes the carbs as fat.
When I was in Weight Watchers, one of the #1 mistakes newbies made was to NOT eat all their weekly extra points values. They thought they were "boosting" their diet by eating less, and they would come to the weigh-ins and be crushed when they didn't lose anything, or even gained! The leader and the more seasoned members would tell them you HAVE to eat enough to fuel your body properly if you expect it to WORK properly. (and working properly in this instance is burning through the excess fat instead of storing it)
Since dogs bodies' are just not made to utilize carbohydrates as the energy source and Ester IS getting easily used animal fat to burn, maybe her body is one of those that hoardes the rest instead of using it.
Cathy and Audrey
Makes Sense
I have this problem personally and don't eat enough, especially vegies and fruits. I'll try the pork, more boney chicken (ie backs) and also add some fillers for her and see how that goes.
Thanks so much!
maybe try this.... sorry i missed your point
i am surprised but then again not....i had a dog who i also thought why are you not losing weight....and i would not go under the 1 lb a day....i did check thyroid and that was fine.....so i did lower the amt to 1% and used carrots as a filler that had no calories also green beans make a good no calorie filler..... so i guess what you d could do is lower the amt of raw....and add say add some carrots...as a filler so she wont be hungry? i have not other then daisy had this problem.....and she droped about 10lbs then i added her raw up...and she never really gained the weight gain again.....i hope in some way this helps....
as you know its difficult to know if a bulldog is hungry...since it seems they look at you all the time like feed me,, feed me ,,,,oh goodness feed me....
Thanks Judy! Um - Yes - She is always hungry
and it is hard to tell if she is just loving the raw or hungry because she about takes your fingers off if you try feeding a piece of beef by hand. I can add beans and carrots as a filler and see how she does. Since she is 4 now I'm assuming her metabolism is changing as well and she doesn't require as much food. At least that is what I tell myself, hahaha!
Once we get into the new house and they have a yard again maybe she will get a little more exercise and require more.
i agree with the metabolism
most fat people dont eat breakfast....and alot of people skip lunch...thus eating only one meal....and i feel to keep the engine burning people and dogs need to eat three to four times a day.....especially if your heavy....i feed three times a day.....and i feel once you get that slow little engine working to burn the food all day she will lose weight....i feel bloat has alot to do with feeding once a day....
so put in some carrots and beans and feed twice or if possible three times....i am going to look for fat burning foods for you.....that might help... also
and exercise and bulldogs in the same sentence hahahahahaha
Audrey is 38 lbs and she gets 13oz/day
it's not an exact amount, but we try to get it around 6.5 oz per meal. In the am she gets 1 oz of liver or kidney and if we are feeding pork ribs for bone she gets that am and pm, a few oz each time to equal about 1oz a day. If she is getting lamb ribs she gets a rib every other day or every 3 days. We always err on the lighter side, especially for bone.
Audrey only drinks water when she gets hot from playing and usually in the evenings she has her thirsty time, but that's it.
Audrey gained at first on the Primal patties, we had to cut it back. Now that she is on just plain old meat, bone and organ with no veggies, she eats more total oz.
It will cost you MUCH less than pre-made frozen! It was costing me $150/month for Primal for Audrey, and it had a lot of heart meat and vegetables in it. Now she eats better meat for $80-$90/month. We do NOT look for real inexpensove meat for her either. Eric usually gets huge roasts that are between $3-$7/pound.
The rabbits are $9 each and one rabbit lasts for 4 meals. The lamb ribs have gotten so expensive! Last time we spent $50-something on 2 packs, they were $12.99/lb. Eric cuts as much meat as he can off of them then we freeze them. We get paid once a month, and are one week away from the 2nd paycheck since we got that lamb. We figured $25 a month is not too bad to spend since she doesn't get ANY treats.
And I STILL feed her for much less than the Primal was costing.
Cathy and Audrey
38 lbs and 13 oz
So Cathy that is my concern. Ester is 50 lbs and at 10 oz she has gained weight. So I have cut her back to 4 oz per feeding and so far I haven't seen her drop a lb on that so I'm going to have to cut her back again and shes eating like a handful of chicken 2x a day. She walks about 30 minutes a day.
Poor thing looks at me like wheres the food.
Same with Kohl....although he is not gaining but is only getting about 1 lb a day at 65lbs.
I guess I just have to buy more bones to keep them busy.
Have you switched yet from the pre-made?
Maybe she will do better on just meat, with none of the veggies in it like the pre-made has.
Veggies have starch and carbohydrates. Dogs do not NEED starch and carbohydrates, so it will be stored in their body as fat.
Maybe just for her to keep the costs down try feeding moslty lean beef or pork for her muscle meat requirement, and really bony chicken pieces for the bone and see if it makes a difference.
Cathy and Audrey
Yes - I switched from pre-packaged
about a month ago. I'll try pork and also more bony chicken.
Thanks Cathy!
I do feed 2x daily
I know many years ago my parents only fed once a day but I don't know how that can possibly be good on their system. It would be difficult to feed 3x daily.
I feed Dallas
per my breeders guidance - 600 grams a day. Ingrediants - chicken, (leg quaters in particular...grinded with bone) carrotts, extra virgin olive oil, wheat bran. I threw in some green beans in this last batch I made. I'm a newbie to the raw. It's been 3wks. and so far so good. Dallas does flips for this stuff LOL. Stool isn't mushy and as smelly. Yes, less water dripped all over my nice clean floors because he doesn't drink as much. While on kibbles he would bark for water. It was as if I didn't give him water. I like the whole holistic approach...i'm reading more into it. I'm looking for a great multivitamine for Dallas any suggestions?? Thanks for reading my lil 2cent.