mmnsm avatar image

I don’t believe in coincidences

One month ago my 3 year old English Bulldog Max had some sort of reaction to something, out of nowhere his face was swollen, to the point where his eyes would not open. The onset of this was sudden, I am not sure if he was outside prior to this. The swelling was limited to his face; I checked him thoroughly for a bite of some sort but was unable to find anything. His breathing was never compromised and he was pink. I gave him Benadryl and the swelling subsided completely within 24 hours. After the 24 hours he appeared to be somewhat lethargic and less active. Within a week the lethargy increased and he began limping on his right rear leg, his gait was also unsteady. On day 6 we sought the help of a vet. I recently moved to southwest Florida and had yet to establish a relationship with a vet here, so on the advice of a friend I took him to a vet he recommended. Long story short we walk out of the vet treating a GI issue with Imodium, flagyl and hydroxyzine. We had told the vet Max did have some episodes of diarrhea and one episode of vomiting (what else is new… this can be considered quite normal for Max). So lesson learned, we will not be going back to this vet.

Over the next 5 days Max continued to become more lethargic and appeared to be in a lot of pain from his back legs. Late one night it became too much for both him and me. I took him to the 24 hour emergency vet. He could barely walk. I left there with a prescription for Ultram and a referral to a surgeon; they said despite no mechanism of injury Max had cranial cruciate rupture in both rear legs, his right leg being worse. They said it can happen anytime doing anything, (Max had always had times when he would limp, but it was from doing something , like going to the beach). Next day I make an appointment with a surgeon to have Max examined and x-rayed and discuss our options. They were kind enough to get him in the next morning. We never made that appointment, late that same night Max was in incredible pain to the point that you could not touch him. We noticed that his rear end was swollen and red, his anus was, for lack of a better word prolapsed. We rush him back to the emergency vet and he is diagnosed with impacted anal glands, we send him off to surgery where they lanced open both glands and drain them. 2 days after that Max appears to be a little more alert and active, that lasted 24 hours. Max soon returned to being lethargic and in pain, I waited 2 days and found another vet, he puts Max under a general, takes x-rays and blood, x-rays do show the rupture of cranial cruciate ligament on both sides and his blood work was normal. We leave with a 14 day supply of Deramax and the understanding that surgery is in his near future.

Things do not add up, I have explained the entire series of events to these vets, the swollen face, the limping and the anal glands. The vets see it as 3 separate unrelated events, my instinct tells me different. Prior to this Max was in excellent health he weighed 74 pounds and we were very active. He now weighs 59 pounds can barely walk, I have also noticed that he has these small pea size growths under his skin, there also appears to be a growth on his left thigh muscle the size of a grape. I am both completely at a loss and completely out of money. Vet bills have added up to over 2000.00 so far. But more to the point I think there is something systemic going on here, his coordination is off, and the limping appears to now affect all 4 legs. He has not has a solid formed bowl movement in 2 weeks. He urinates wherever he stands. My kids keep asking me if he will be all right, I can’t answer that question anymore. Does anybody have any ideas?

Kathy Chester Newman and Jessa's picture

Poor baby...

have they tested him for Lyme?  I don't even know if they have that where you live, but it can cause a variety of symptoms.  The bumps under his skin would concern me also.  I agree with you something is going on that they aren't finding.  Have you checked the home page for vets in your area?  I think you need to find one that specializes in bulldogs.  Sending prayers for your guy.

mmnsm's picture

Lyme is negitive

We definitely considered lymes, we just moved from LI New York. I just finished petting him and checking every inch of his body, he's got 15-20 of those pea size growths under the surface of his skin. The one on the muscle fiber of his thigh leg is different. Just found an open sore in a fold on his face. The discharge from his eyes seems to be a different consistancy. (its thiner and hardens to a crust). I am starting to think he is immunosuppressed. I found this website searching for a vet that specializes in bulldogs. I have a choice of 1, It will be a trek, but that doesn't really matter, what does it take to make the list as a vet that specializes in bulldogs?

Kathy Chester Newman and Jessa's picture

The vets on the home page are...

recommended by people that have used them.  I agree though it sounds like it started with a bite of some kind.  Here in Az we have scorpions, centipedes and black widows that can cause long term reactions, and I'm sure you have your share of nasty critters in Florida.  You might also see if there is a recue in your area that could recommend a bully vet.  I know sometimes they aren't that close, we used to drive an hour until we found someone closer.  We had a boy who was immuno suppressed and we would give him one 500 mg ester C, one vit E, one 25 mg zinc and a pet tab daily to help boost his immunity.  Hope you can find help for your boy.

DiMacQ's picture

Other than the cruciate

Other than the cruciate ligaments, much of this sounds like when my black lab was bitten by a poisonous snake.   She was a very sick girl.  It started with a massively swollen face, lethargy... then body bloating, severe diarrhea.   There were lots of symptoms that eventually went away.   According to the vets, (yes plural), a snake bite is not as bad as in humans, and the symptoms would be over in a week.   That was not my experience.   One vet said it was pancreatitis - unrelated to the snake bite.  Not sure if a snake bite could kick that in or not.... but it was a very painful experience.    It took several weeks till she was back to normal.    

As for the cruciate surgery, I know they can't live without getting it corrected, but please make sure your bullie is very healthy going in, as it is rough surgery.    I've gone though 6 of those surgeries on different dogs and it's so hard to watch.    We lost a beloved bullie in March having that surgery... due to complications.

I am so sorry to hear what you both have been through.   It is so hard to watch our babies suffer and so frustrating trying to find an answer.   My heart goes out to you and I hope you find an answer soon!

 

Deb and MacKenzie and Ester's picture

CCL surgery

They absolutely can live without the surgery.  It depends on severity of the ligament tear.  If it is a partial tear the muscles around the knee will strengthen to support the knee.  There are many, many people who out out of surgery.  It is not a life or death surgery.

This dog does not sound like it needs knee surgery at this time.  It has many other symptoms going on that do not relate to a knee injury.

DiMacQ's picture

One more thing... in most

One more thing... in most cases, my dogs cruciate ligaments just tore instantly, while they were playing and doing what they always do. 

Deb and MacKenzie and Ester's picture

Have they xrayed his

stomach, colon, intestines?  Have they checked his prostrate? Have these done the toe test to see if he has anytype of spinal injury.

BTW - A ligament rupture does not show on an xray.

AmyandSophia's picture

A couple of things.

How recently did you move, and where are you now located? Have you tested for Valley Fever? Vaccinations recently? The lumps under the skin, are they solid or soft? It sounds like they are NOT connected to muscle or other tissue, is that correct? ALL of this could be a reaction to a vaccine given or a flea/heartworm type treatment. Even if you have used the same medications/vaccines for years, it can cause a reaction in an otherwise non-reactive animal. Same as in people, I suddenly became allergic to processed tomato products as an adult. Never, ever had an issue with any allergy before in my life and ate tomate products for years with no issue. One day I had a strong allergic reaction to a tomato product and now I have to be really careful with anything like that! Just all of a sudden I had a reaction. Same thing can and does happen in pets sometimes.

Here is the link to vets by state, which is also found on the home page, left column.

http://www.bulldogsworld.com/health-and-medical/veterinarians

Best of luck to you.

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Amy and Sophia