OK we have a little issue here. Roxy 4 yr. old spayed female is humping Cooper (2 yr. male nuetered) What the heck??? Is she confused????? Thats not the worst. I really dont know how to put this.... but she has taken a habit of licking him first. (yes, downtown).....Of course Cooper is not minding it but I cant let it go on. She will do it for an hour if I let her. I have to spray his belly with bitter yuck to get her to stop. Then she turns around and mounts him. Cooper has been with us for 4 months now. They have there issues sometimes but for the most part they get along. Is this a natural behavior??? Or is this dominence??? Should I be stopping it or let it go and letting him decide????
Personally I stop
any behavior that I find distasteful and inapproperiate because I'm the alpha in my house. Some people don't care about humping...I do. She is being dominate and telling him she's the boss.
I did get a good laugh the other evening when Kohl decided to hump his stuffed elephant, but he's only 4 1/2 months and it was funny. No longer funny now and he is told "No disco" and distracted into doing something else or playing with a different toy.
Likely dominance...
I don't allow that to continue. Others may disagree with me, but I have a no humping rule. {We use a firm command of "NO DISCO" in my house. We don't want the grandkids going to school talking about humping :-) } Some say to let them work it out, but in my experience, it leads to more disagreements between the dogs.
Cathy Hardegree
An article you might find helpful
The Down & Dirty on Humping: Sex, Status, and Beyond
Humping As A Hard-Wired Behavior Pattern
Humping is one of several pre-programmed behaviour scripts that most dogs are born with called fixed action patterns (FAPs). What makes FAPs unique is that they are triggered by the dog’s environment without requiring any prior learning. No wonder some 3-month-old prepubescent tykes hump a littermate or a pillow for the very first time like an old pro! These FAPs come pre-installed for good reason – they all relate to essential survival skills: fighting, escaping danger, reproducing, and eating. Necessary stuff indeed, however, today’s domesticated dogs rely much less on these survival skills than their wild counterparts. This, combined with strong selection for certain behaviors in certain breeds, is the reason why there is so much variation in the number and strength of these behaviour patterns. This explains why not ALL domestic dogs are humpamaniacs, car stalkers, or Frisbee fanatics.
One of the interesting things about humping, and other FAPs, is the way they tend to pop up outside of their primary context. For example, most dogs are triggered to chase by a quickly retreating object or animal. The primary role of this FAP is clearly to enable feeding through predation. However, there are oodles of situations where this FAP is triggered that do not actually involve hunting down lunch, such as chasing a retreating dog, the household cat, or a tennis ball. The most logical explanations for why FAPs pop up outside of the situation they were designed for are 1.) better to have too many than too few triggers for these survival scripts in the doggy DNA – so in the case of humping, better to create a dog that gets turned on by too many things than too few and who might otherwise be slack at reproducing – and 2.) why not practice these key behaviors when opportunity arises, to keep them well honed for when they really are needed for their primary function?
Arousal Triggers: Play, Excitement, and Conflict
Play seems to be a very common trigger for humping, probably because it is both a good opportunity for practicing important behaviors, as mentioned above, and also because it creates an exciting, stimulating atmosphere – a sexual trigger in many species, not just dogs! This notion that general arousal can tip over into sexual arousal is supported by the fact that humping seems to be triggered by other stimulating experiences besides play. For example, my pit bull Charlotte will often begin pelvic thrusting as she digs in to the wax feast of my beagle Bender’s ears. Not my idea of excitement – but to each her own! Humping can also occur in conflict situations that cause mild frustration or anxiety – settings where a dog wants to do something, but isn’t allowed to, and funnels the energy into another totally unrelated behaviour. I knew a lab who would hump the cat only when told to stop begging at the dinner table. We humans tend to do more “civilized” things when we are conflicted or a bit anxious, like tap our feet or twiddle with our hair… since humping is considered a very private behaviour in most societies!
Concerns About Humping As A Sign of Dominance
When dogs hump an object – usually the most expensive pillow in the house – humans generally find it either annoying or funny, but not deeply upsetting. By contrast, humping people or other dogs often raises serious concerns about the possibility of a relationship problem if the humping is interpreted as a display of dominance. There is no question that humping is sometimes performed in the context of dominance displays, ranking maneuvers, posturing, or whatever term you want to use for the symbolic behaviors that dogs use to vie for controlling access to a given resource: owner, bone, dish, space, whatever. When dogs hump each other, some owners are quite laissez-faire about the behaviour, and others more interfering. However, when it comes to humping people, most humans find the behaviour annoying and embarrassing at best, and see it as a very scary tip of the iceberg indicating that the dog is en route to trying to take over the relationship, house, and even universe, at worst.
It may well be that some humping of people is motivated by attempts at control. However, given that the primary function of humping is clearly sexual, and the frequency with which it pops up within play and other stimulating situations, jumping to the conclusion that a dog who humps a person or another dog is displaying dominance is faulty.
Training A Dog Not To Hump
Fortunately, it is often unnecessary to establish the reason for humping in order to curb it, since the very same technique works quite well across the board (minus trying to discourage a male from humping a female in heat!).
1) Teach an “Off” or “Leave it” command
2) Instruct Rover “Off” AS SOON AS Rover commits to the dirty deed
3) If Rover proceeds despite the warning then advise him with “Too bad” that he’s just earned himself 5 minutes in the sin-bin (utility room, car, or other available time out zone) or a trip straight home from the dog park
The advantage of non-violent punishment to discourage unwanted behaviour, as compared to any hitting or other scare tactics, is that you will not risk creating a fear-aggression problem. Being marched home from the dog park for a dog-dog humping offence, or being sent to the utility room for a dog-human humping offence are a bummer worth sulking over, not a trauma worthy of aggression. And for those concerned about dominance-related humping, being relegated to the penalty box sure sends a clear message about who is calling the shots! Violent punishers like hitting and shock collars can sometimes eliminate the problem they are used for but run the risk of leaving you with an even bigger problem instead. For example, if you used a shock collar on a dog that humps young children, you could successfully eliminate the humping but at the same time cause a phobia of children by creating an association in your dog’s mind between young children and pain – a much bigger and more dangerous problem than humping was!
When To Intervene
It is my opinion that human intervention in the interest of the welfare of the humpee is appropriate in any situation where humping is non-consensual. Consent is easily tested in dog-dog situations by removing the humper mid-action and seeing whether or not the humpee takes the opportunity to flee. If he or she sticks around for more, you can assume it is consensual. In the case of dog-human humping, I think it is reasonable to curb the behaviour if either the owner of the dog or the person being humped doesn’t like it, or if the humpee is a child. It also seems appropriate to intervene if it is decided that the humping behaviour itself is problematic, regardless of who or what is on the receiving end. In other words, if you find it embarrassing, frightening, or worrisome, or if your dog is gooping up your sofa pillow and giving himself a friction burn, then go ahead and curb it. Other than an intact male pursuing a bitch in heat, we can teach our feisty friends to control their natural impulses, but we ought to do so using only non-violent methods.
By Dr. Jennifer Messer
Lynn King CPDT-KA
Thank you
I will get this under control. I find it unacceptable and she has done it to select people that come into our home in the past. I almost think she seeks out the weak. I usually correct her once then she is done. This girl is a piece of work. I feel like as soon as I get one issue somehat resolved another pops up. Thanks for the advice. I can see this more clearly now.
Our house was disco central
Matilda used to do it to younger dogs. Being in daycare, and corrected appropriately helped. She now knows what is well-tempered social behavior and what is not.
She will, however, start when she thinks that my foster dog is going to do something she doesn't want him to do (ie get in her bed, get up on the sofa, etc).
Both of them are mortally offended by the small squirt gun I have and a firm "no" with a light squirt usually deters them.
thank you Lynn
I was going to post about the fact that it is not dominance but was afraid I would meet with great resistance. A wonderful behaviourist in Toronto who also owns bulldogs, has a training school, does bulldog rescue in Ontario, and whose bullies perform in the "International Superdogs" has a course she offers called "dominance debunked". It opened my eyes to the many misunderstandings of why dogs do what they do.
BTW my naughty Mr. Higgins humps when he thinks he can get away with it.
You might also enjoy this article
Dominance Die?
Why Won't Dominance Die?David RyanIt is easy to see why trainers and owners alike are fond of the concepts of “pack” and “dominance” in relation to pet dogs. A pack means we’re all part of the same gang. “Dominance” explains our respective positions in that pack. We live in a pack with our pet dogs and they either dominate us or we dominate them. To be at the top of the pack with total dominance would make you the “alpha”, with all the esteem that entails, therefore dogs will strive for dominance unless you beat them to it. It’s a neat explanation.
Except that none of it actually bears scientific scrutiny. Prof Richard Dawkins described self replicating ideas as “memes”(1) that live in our minds and pass from one to another through no reason other than their popularity, or catchiness. Some are harmless, like that annoying song you keep humming long after you’ve decided you hate it, but others can be positively harmful, like the idea that combined MMR jabs cause autism, which continues to prevent many children benefiting from the protection they provide.
The “pack” and “dominance” theory of domestic dogs is a harmful meme. It prevents many owners understanding their dogs, causes untold misery for both and is perpetuated by well-meaning but uninformed dog trainers around the world. It is proving extremely resistant to extinction.
This meme originated in the “dogs are wolves” theory in the late 1960s. It was spawned in the pond of genetics from the premise that if a dog is the same species as the wolf they must behave identically. The perceived wisdom at the time, emanating from L. David Mech’s book, The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species(2), was that wolves pack and dominate each other, therefore dogs must also pack and dominate each other. The theories of wolf and dog “dominance” and the “alpha” firmly entered the imagination of not only the public, but also the scientific community. As a police dog handler in the 1980s I regularly tried to “dominate” my dogs using the best available scientific model.
However, as science advances our viewpoint changes and in Mech’s case, as he points out in his 2008 article Whatever Happened to the Term Alpha Wolf?(3) more rigorous examination of wild living wolves revealed that their social behaviour was centred on the family unit, built around cohesion and co-operation, not conflict. A fight for pack dominance would mean striving to displace one parent in order to mate with the other. The model of the wolf’s supposed fight for dominance and alpha status was replaced with one where parents and older siblings guide and lead younger offspring in order to enhance overall genetic fitness. In 1999 Mech published Alpha Status, Dominance, and Division of Labor in Wolf Packs(4), in which he corrected his earlier mistaken ideas. He happily reports that in the 2003 book Wolves: Behavior, Ecology, and Conservation(5) written by twenty three authors and edited by Mech and Boitani, the term “alpha” is only ever mentioned to explain why it has been superseded.
At the same time, studies of the domestic dog have also moved on. It has been well established that the social behaviour of the domestic dog is unlike that of the wolf. The domestic dog is a neotonised version of the wolf-type ancestor, a specialised variant that evolved into a newly formed environmental niche to scavenge the domestic waste of human settlements. These adaptations removed the need to operate as a true wolf pack and consequently there is little collaboration in hunting or in care of offspring, but much more cooperation with strangers, dog or human. Although dogs congregate in groups around resources, they do not form packs in the cohesive family way that wolves still do.
The concept of “dominance” itself has never been a quality of an individual, but the product of a relationship. Ethologists label an animal dominant over another once there is a trend towards the second animal deferring in encounters between the two. I can no more be born dominant than I could be born chairman. Because I can never be dominated if I don’t allow myself to be, dominance can only be the result of deference by others.
Preferences will become established in repeated encounters, but pet dog relationships are far too complicated to be defined through a simple, “one individual dominates another”. A smooth relationship is one in which each knows the other’s preferences and defers accordingly. This is often described in terms of resource holding potential(6), but the important aspect of it is that it is emergent, not the result of pre-programmed “dominance”.
These conflicting behaviours are the result of the dog trying to secure something they know is going to have a positive emotional benefit – to facilitate a reward or avoid something unpleasant. How we deal with the way those emotions are satisfied determines our relationship with our dogs.
Dogs that jump up are not exhibiting“dominance”.
Individual dogs can be placed anywhere along the bold/shy continuum that exists in all species. In shy individuals behaviour that does not meet owners’ expectations is likely to be tinged with fear and in bold individuals the behaviour is likely to be joyously unrestrained. Most dogs’ behaviour will be a complex mixture of these two extremes.
That complexity is increased because our pets do not continue to live in their original state as peripheral scavengers. They have been refined through selective breeding for specific purposes such as hunting, herding and guarding. By enhancing traits present in the original stock, humans have created dogs whose emotional balance depends on being able to fulfil their desire to exhibit these inherited predispositions, at least to some degree. Although the working traits of these types are reduced during “pet-ification” – the breeding of more amenable individuals that are more suited to life as a pet (witness the current “pet-ification” of the Border Collie from a working animal) - the breeding stock continues to throw up specimens in which the original working temperament is strongly represented. This may be a predisposition to chase moving objects, to nip heels, to use aggression to solve conflict, to hold something in the mouth, or any other working breed disposition. The need to perform these behaviours, and their dissatisfaction when they are unable to do so, can steer pet dogs into conflict with their owners.
Jumping up is a natural greeting behaviour that can be changed through appropriate training rather than through “dominating”
If, as was the case when I was a young police dog handler, this behaviour is labelled as “dominant”, the perceived solution is to out-dominate the dog and bend them to your will. This often involved things like rolling them over and holding them down, or shaking them by the scruff. In dogs where the lack of compliance is motivated by frustration at being unable to fulfil inherited needs, or where the motivation is fear, such as when the dog has developed a fear of being left by the owner, applying misguided ideas of dominance will increase that frustration and fear, and with it the probable use of aggression. Less confrontationally, standing in the dog’s bed to show them who is in charge will do little to prevent them barking when the owner is on the telephone, but it similarly fails to address the underlying emotional issues.
Scientific enquiry shows us that the “dominance” model is unsubstantiated. A recent paper from Bristol University(7) is the latest to try to illuminate the construct if not for the general public, then at least for the professionals still left using it. So why then does it persist? In part it is the “catchiness” of the meme sticking in the mind. In part it is also because, whilst the majority of practitioners at the highest levels are aware that it is inaccurate and unhelpful, and sometimes positively harmful, some are still advocating its use. It could be that there are vested interests in continuing to promulgate “dominance” – books and DVDs to sell – and a reluctance to change one’s standpoint from the embarrassment of appearing to have been wrong. However, this shouldn’t stand in the way of informed change; as Keynes famously said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”
In part it is because there are still papers being published that profess to be able to examine the concept, such as a recent offering from Cordoba University(8). There was a more recent article in Veterinary Times(9) pleading for the practice of evidence based medicine. The reasoning applies no less to the behaviour modification of pet dogs, and the Cordoba paper is a good example of why. Critical evaluation shows that it starts from an assumption, “Dominance aggression is the most common form of aggression...” and then compounds the error by allowing pet owners to define it in their dogs through the choice of two photographs of “dominant” and “fearful” expressions. Out of a total of thirty references only eight are post 2000, and four of them are the own author’s. The paper’s data analysis is also basic and shows associations rather than causation, but nevertheless some professionals feel able to use it to prop up their views.
In part it persists because it is still “seen to be working”. It makes good television to go head to head and dominate a dog. Unfortunately, television is not real life and tends to show short interactions where the dog is forced to submit. It is not impossible for a “handy” owner to repeatedly force their dog into submission either, but these unpleasant and unnecessary measures are not how most pet owners want to live with their dogs. Lamentably the high profile of these programmes means the on-screen warning “do not try this at home” is often not heeded.
The final and probably most important reason for the persistence of “dominance” is because the debunking of the myth is relatively new. It is generally said to take twenty years for new science to permeate the public conscious, but now its time has come. More and better research is being conducted and more practitioners are, like Keynes, changing their mind as the facts change. More members of the public are actually seeing that there are better alternatives, and more and more people are realising that whilst the meme might be “catchy” it isn’t actually very satisfying.
“Why won’t dominance die?” The use of the model to explain dog behaviour is dying. If memes can be said to have an independent existence, we are witnessing the death throes of this one as it struggles to hang on to what little life it has left, existing only in the minds of the most stubborn or self-interested. As the groundswell of informed opinion moves against it, there will eventually be no hiding places left.
An edited version of this article first appeared in the Veterinary Times Vol 40 No 7, 22nd February 2010 under the title “Dominance meme: out-lived extreme?” David Ryan
References
1. Dawkins, R. (1989) The Selfish Gene (new edition). Oxford, Oxford University Press.
2. Mech, L.D. (1970) The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species. Minnesota, University of Minnesota Press.
3. Mech, L.D. (2008) Whatever happened to the term Alpha wolf?
http://www.wolf.org/wolves/news/iwmag/2008/winter/alphawolf.pdf accessed 29th September 2009
4. Mech, L.D. (1999) Alpha Status, Dominance, and Division of Labor in Wolf Packs. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 77(8): 1196–1203
5. Mech, L.D. & Boitani, L. (2003) Wolf social ecology. 1–34 in: Mech, L.D. & Boitani, L. (eds) Wolves: Behavior, Ecology and Conservation. Chicago, University of Chicago Press.
6. Parker, G.A. (1974) Assessment strategy and the evolution of animal conflicts. Journal of Theoretical Biology. 47. 223–243.
7. Bradshaw, J.W.S, Blackwell, E.J. & Casey R.A. (2009) Dominance in domestic dogs—useful construct or bad habit? Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research. 4 (3) 135-144.
8. Peres-Guisado, J. & Munoz-Serrano, A. (2009). Factors linked to dominance aggression in dogs. Journal of Animal and Veterinary Advances. 8 (2) 336-342.
9. Elsheikha, H.M. & Rossano M.G. (21st September 2009) Evidence-based approach is wise. Veterinary Times.
Lynn King CPDT-KA
Dominance Or Not
So if it is only sexual then why is this passage added into the article --
There is no question that humping is sometimes performed in the context of dominance displays, ranking maneuvers, posturing, or whatever term you want to use for the symbolic behaviors that dogs use to vie for controlling access to a given resource: owner, bone, dish, space, whatever.
wow!!
Fantastic articles. I have printed them out. I very much wish everyone who owns dogs (of any breed) has the oppourtunity to learn this important information, especially since everytime my bully humps something or someone, I get the lecture about him being dominant. Mr. Higgins, dominant??? Holy moly, he is anything but, and I hate to say but it hurts that people think that of him.
About every 5 years more is learned about dog behaviour and old school ideas are tossed out the window. i.e. that awful alpha "roll over" to get a pup to submit. OMG
I was in PetSmart last weekend and witnessed a trainer teaching a 3 year old GSD how to "leave it" and "no pull" The method was a sharp leash pop along with a high pitched yell "HEY!" at the same time.That was it. She was walking all over the store and this was repeated constantly. It hurt me so much to see the poor dog being treated this way, and I`m not sure what the poor dog would have learned from this treatment, other than confusion. I looked up their website only to read they practise reward based training. I actually emailed the company and they are getting back to me. I don`t think I will go back. I cannot take it.