Hello everyone. I just joined and this is my first post. I really need some help. I have a 3 year old female English Bulldog named Roxy. She's spayed, on a prey model raw diet (considering BARF since she's overweight) and about 65lbs. From time to time she would go though spells where she experienced lameness in a leg. It would rotate from left to right and front to back so it was hardly ever in the exact same spot. It was diagnosed as everything from growing pains to muscle sprains but never nothing serious and usually only lasted a day or two. Recently it happened again and lasted a couple days more so I took her in. The vet said it was a muscle sprain, gave me some Deramaxx and sent us on our way. Then about 4 days later it happens again to the opposite rear leg and this time she was walking very crooked. Her hips swayed radically to the right as though she was shifting her weight to her rear left leg and avoiding putting pressure on her right leg. We took her back in and this time the vet took x-rays and came to the conclusion that it was NOT hip dysplasia and rather just a bad hip. Prescribed Deramaxx again, put Roxy on a diet and sent us on our way again. After 2 days of being on the Deramaxx she started acting funny and very restless and as if her stomach was upset. After reading up on it, I quickly took her off and it's been 3 days since then. She's now on a GLC supplement along with a human grade fish oil supplement of 1000mg a day. I can tell she's in pain because she sleeps all day long now and shows no interest in playing. She's eating and drinking water normally along with using the restroom on schedule. I feel so bad for her but after everything horrible I read about NSAIDs, I refused to give her another Deramaxx. She appeared down all day today and so finally I gave in and gave her half a Rimadyl from one of her past prescriptions. It wasn't expired and from what I read is a tad bit safer than Deramaxx. Can anyone give me advice that might be able to help me until I can see the vet again on Tuesday?
Thank you!
No advice much, but where in Texas are you?
If you are in the Dallas area you may want to consider a different vet. I could recommend one, plus there are other bulldoggers here that could recommend a good bully vet for you,
Amy and Sophia
I'm in El Paso, TX
I'm in El Paso, TX
Deramaxx safe in right doses - kennel rest extremely important!
Three weeks ago Thursday my Hank (2 years) injured his leg (and I credit this to a recent weight gain). In efforts to avoid sedation for x-rays and surgery we tried kennel rest w/ accompanying Deramaxx. I trust my vet very much and he said that a half tablet of deramaxx once a day was NOT to be exceeded. How much Deramaxx were you prescribed and in what dosages? I noticed a few side effects like his tongue seemed to be numb because everytime he ate he was dropping food out of his mouth like he did not know how to complete the task. Two weeks later of kennel rest he seemed to finally be walking fine (when he was hurt he was completely lame on his back leg, never even putting it down). It has been two days of more normal activity and he is slightly limping again. My vet suggested that we can continue the Deramaxx in a weaning schedule (quarter tablet every day, then quarter tablet every other). The problem with these drugs are not the drugs themselves but the doctors who do not prescribe them in the right amounts (just like for humans). Also, according to my vet the GLC supplements are great as a preventative measure but will not fix any acute injury that your dog may have. Until you can get your bully back to the vet I would put her on strict kennel rest (only comes out to eat or go to the bathroom). No steps, no running/jumping, goes outside on a leash etc. Although my Hank is not 100% better, I suspect his limp is back because of the lack of pain meds but I think the kennel rest will in the long run help us avoid knee surgery. When they are on kennel rest their bodies develop scar tissue around acute injuries which sometimes can prevent the need for any surgery and promote internal healing. I do not know why your dogs symptoms seem to be rotating legs... this may speak to an arthritis problem, in which case GLC is great. You should front load the GLC though according to my vet. Give more than one a day for 4-6 weeks then back down to a maintenance dose of once per day.
Also, when one leg is injured I was informed that the biggest risk is that by letting them walk around and behave normally is them hurting their other leg. Which is why kennel rest is so important. If your dog was hurt on one side it is very possible that she hurt the other while trying to compensate for the first injury. I hope she starts to feel better. Watching them in pain is the WORST experience. Kennel rest is very hard when they look at you so sad like "why are you putting me in here!" but you know it is for their own good. I have been lax this weekend but I plan to continue strict kennel rest w/ out any more Deramaxx once weaned until the limp is completely gone. Update us after your vet appointment!
Hank's mom.
I'm sure the Deramaxx may be
I'm sure the Deramaxx may be safe but I'm so nervous about hurting my little girl. Of all the pain meds Roxy has been prescribed since this started, it's the Deramaxx that's has the biggest negative side effect on her. Also, the GLC supplement I'm using is called GLC 1000 and the directions call for 1/2 a scoop twice a day so when you say front load it does that mean double the dose to one scoop twice a day? Also is the 1000mg of fish oil per day enough or should that be front loaded as well? I noticed earlier today that the bottle states it as having omega 3 only. Is this good enough?
Go easy with the Fish Oil
to begin...she will get diarrhea if she isn't used to it and the Omega 3 is good enough.
I've also been told Deramaxx seems to have more side effects. My vet prescribes Tramadol as well for pain.
Rimadyl
I personally prefer Rimadyl over Deramaxx and unfortunatley thery all have side effects but every drug does. Have you read those on any perscriptions you take or have taken.
Get the weight off of her and some Rimadyl for a few weeks and she needs to rest and not play for a couple of weeks. Then see how she is.
Hope she gets better soon.
Sounds like a pretty good
Sounds like a pretty good plan. Since giving her that half of Rimadyl yesterday evening she's been action a lot better. The only issue now is convincing her that she's not not well enough to play! LOL
Yes ... that is the problem
she needs to be quiet. You should leash walk her to potty. Rimadyl is an anti inflammatory.
Hi and Welcome.
I am curious as to why you would switch the diet from PMR to Barf. In my opinion, PMR is the most excellent diet for our pets. If you just feed less, twice a day if you're worried about hunger, but smaller meals the weight should come off rapidly.
I hope the other problem with your girl is also remedied quickly.
The only reason I switched to
The only reason I switched to a BARF diet was because doctor's orders had me cut her total food intake to half. So now I have to divide 3/4lb meat into two separate meals. Fearing that she was going to be starving all the time I figured I'd about a 1/4 of green beans to her meal so she could feel fuller. That's when I started reading about the many anti-inflammatory properties of various veggies and figuring it would help with her leg I thought maybe i could add a pulverized mixture to her meals. So basically it was to make her meals fuller and hopefully help heal her leg faster.
If you are looking for just a pain killer...
we use Tramadol and it has very few side effects. Our boy had surgery on his leg and also has a bad back, so every once in a while he needs a little something to help with pain if he overdoes it. Also, I know you live in Texas, do they have valley fever there? Here in Arizona, if any of our guys start limping, we test them for valley fever, it's a fungus that lives in the hot, dry, dusty climates (Arizona is where we are) and the first symptom is usually a limp that rotates from leg to leg. Just a though, you might not even have it where you are.
Actually, living here in El
Actually, living here in El Paso I've never heard of Valley Fever before but I will be sure to ask my vet. As far as the Tramadol is concerned, I personally have about 10-15 pills from a past back injury that's not yet expired. I wouldn't want to experiment on Roxy on my own so I'll be sure to mention that as well to my vet. Thanks!
I'm in El Paso, as well. I
I'm in El Paso, as well. I suggest trying Montana Animal Clinic. It's near Montana and Trowbridge. The vet and techs there have plenty of experiance, and that is the only place I trust with Tank. They are a walk in bases.
Wouldn't know that he just got a brandnew $60 bed! My forever puppy Tank.