Bulldogs World

I am not an expert, a breeder, or a member of the BCA.  I am, howerver, a volunteer with BCARN and have encountered a number of very sick dogs.  I will tell you that with as much as you're poor pup has going on medically that I am APPALLED by the treatement you have received from these people (I can't even bear to think that they are actually "breeders" as endorsed by the BCA).  I cannot offer you much in the way of insight on what to do or how to help your puppy (poor baby).  But hopefully there are others here who can help, or point you towards people who can help.

I do recommend that you contact the BCA Board of Directors DIRECTLY to discuss this matter with them.  If these two people are truly endorsed by BCA and have such horrifically poor genetic lines that this type of puppy is "common" between them...they need to be REMOVED immediately from the list.  If you have the paperwork from the breeder there should be health guarantees and clauses in the contracts stating what the recourse for you will be should the pup become ill (or have genetic problems beyond "typical" for the breed).

This is a very serious matter, and if these two people are bragging about the BCA status-but producing poorly bred, unhealthy dogs the BCA will need to take quick action against them.

I wish you luck.  Please keep us posted.

Shannon,

Thanks so much for responding. I was given the same advice by a very prominent bulldog breeder and judge in my area. By the way, we are from Michigan that is where I bought Joker, we've only lived in PA for under two years.  I did send two emails to two different woman who are on the board of the BCA, and I have yet to hear from them.  

Someone mentioned that it appears the breeder is trafficking puppies. My mind doesnt work that way, I guess Im naive. But then I started thinking about it and since I purchased Joker, she has purchased a handful of other bulldogs and sold them. I thought her purchasing Joker was a 1 team deal and she wanted a stud. But she purchased him w/o testicles and from what I understand those testicles should be down by 8 weeks.  

What's really sad is she continually blamed the original breeder and said, "I did not bring Joker into this world, he is not mine you have to go to original breeder."  Prior to me buying Joker, I told her I was concerned because his original breeder was not a member of the BCA. She assured me that some very good breeders are not affiliated with the BCA and some of the worst offenders are. So I shouldnt be concerned about her (original breeder in N.C.) not being affiliated with the BCA. Furthermore, at one point I didnt want Joker because I was concerned of a law suit because she was supposed to give Joker back to the N.C. breeder. But the Michigan breeder said there is nothing in the contract regarding her "reselling" him. She said," He's my dog so I can sell him."

My contract states she will help place him if for any reason we cannot keep him. I trusted her. She should be banned from breeding. Such a sin, what she has done.

Obviously this BCA breeder is so selfish and lives off her bulldogs and others. It is a shame. All vets involved think euthanasia should be seriously considered based on his medical issues. 

I'm very trusting and clearly have been played by this woman who is on the BCA and referral list. I do thank you for your advice with this. 

On a positive note, Winston is adorable you are very blessed.

Every BCA member signs a form when renewing their membership each year pledging to uphold ethics and integrity in their breeding and selling practices. Sounds like these people didn't take that statement seriously. The practices of the breeder and broker involved should be brought to the attention of BCA, although, unfortunately, it doesn't mean anything will be done about them....

Every breeder, no matter how careful their breedings are, can run into problems. The proof of how reputable they are is in how they handle problems when they arise.

Have you considered a Small Claims Court suit? This should fall under the part about 'merchantability and fitness for use' clause - i.e. the pup isn't sound enough to be a companion dog.

So sorry you are experiencing health issues with your pup and resistance to help from those you got the pup from.

I didnt know how to answer or respond (other than outrage) so I posted on the main board, directing people back here on the Medical board.

Good luck with the situation :( and I am so sorry you have had to go through this !

Karma  Karma  KARMA ! ! !

make sure you make a formal complaint with the bca...make it in writting....i am disgusted to hear all the problems...but on the other hand his rope should not make any differnece in his entropian surgery...i did not see are these good bully vets???

i would aso go for a small claims judgement as their are lemon laws in pa about dogs....have you looked into this....what are you going to do in the long run...are you looking to place this dog??

is the same, puppy is to be returned to me.    I actually had one of my puppies that I rehomed from Alaska to the eastcoast...and she is major pointed. That was rehomed...not resold! She is lovely but was in a home with a lady that has some medical issues, another bulldog bitch that decided she didn't like my girl and the lady just wasn't physically able to handle the 2 girls.  The first squabble started with them sleeping with her, we all know how the jealousy can start there.  Anyway she is in a new home and doing fabulous with owners that LOVE her very much and she has a brother (Otis) who she shares her bed with.  So happy ending!

A letter to BCA is in important to at least have them relook at these people on the breeder referral list.  Unfortunately just because they are a BCA member doesn't mean they are without scruples. 

I feel sorry for the dog.

I also question the vets!  They are making this dog sound like it can't even walk and I doubt that is the case.  Also a nose rope has nothing to do with entropian.  Vets don't know everything and can misdiagnose stuff or make something out to be serious that a dog can live with for years without problems.  My vet actually misdiagnosed a friends bulldog with a life threatening heart problem, referred her to a specialist and there was nothing wrong with the dog or the dogs heart.  The xray had somekind of flaw that was caused by the xray tech who took them.  Lots of tears and $$$ to find out the dog was perfectly healthy.  He also said my dog needed patella surgery...than a year later (no surgery) said her patella felt great.  So you can't believe everything a vet tells you.

I am also from Michigan.  

From the person you purchased the puppy from? Or, any type of contract?

I feel your pain. I guess my next questiion is do you want to give up the dog? And what will happen to the dog if you give it back to the first breeder?

It's obvious this dog will need a lifetime of special and expensive Vet care but, he can live a long happy life. My girl was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at 2 years of age and is still going strong at 7. I chose to start her on Adequan shots immediately after her diagnosis and she receives one shot a month. She's done great on the shots.

As far as the entropian surgery, any opthamologist should be able to perform the surgery. It sounds as if they believe the nose rope may be too large and causing some trauma to the eye as well which I believe should be a minor fix if something that's truely needed at all.

I live in Canada so this might not apply but I had a friend buy a pup from a pet store.  Different breed of dog but they assured her it was from a reputable breeder (we now know to NEVER buy from a pet store).  She found out if was from a puppy mill.  The poor guy is so poorly breed, has had more operations then I can count for knees and eyes and other things, and at about 3 he's pretty much blind.  In the end she sued for the medical expenses on the basis that she was lied to.  She won.  She also got featured in a TV news story on petstore pets.  Big win, the store no longer sells pets.

Suing for medical expenses might put them out of business.  I hope your little fellas operation goes well.