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From: Beth Carr [mcbeths1@ yahoo.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:50 AM
>To: Susan Judge
>Subject: Dog World
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>Thank you Reid for crossposting...
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>I am writing this to let you know what happened.
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>We were at the Harrisonburg shows over the weekend. We left to head home
>on Monday,
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>we stopped around 4:00 to x the dogs and everyone was fine. We then went
>on to meet a client and pick up a dog to show around 9:30 PM. We were
>tired and decided to spend the
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>night. We went to x the dogs and and they were dead! We did everything we
>could and nothing helped. We spent the rest of the night driving home.
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>We contacted the clients and they came out to the the house. We contacted
>the insurance thru our program and the vets office. They had us bring 2 of
>the dogs in to bested and have pathology done. By the time we drove
>home the vet had the priliminary tests done and called us. They ruled out
>carbon monoxide and they ruled out heat prostration. They did
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>biopsies and gastric contents to be sent off for further testing. They
>wanted us to know that they felt that the dogs had been poisoned! and that
>we should be aware that many of the drugs today cannot be detected and they
>ordered tox screens done but not to expect it to show much.
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>Needless to say we are devastated!. ....the insurance that we carry only
>covers the clients dogs and that just somehow doesn't seem to make a
>difference.. .We had 7 of our dogs that were also poisoned, it was over 20
>years of work and sacrifice destroyed and we are virtually out of business
>as far as our line of French Bulldogs goes!!!! Whoever did this was very
>calculated in that the et the old and non-productive dogs, they are
>fine, not a problem at all,
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>It is so hard to believe that some sick individual would actually poison
>these defensless animals in their own crates in their own vehicle what
>sense does this make??? They never hurt anyone and could not have defended
>themselves. I never even gave this a thought, I just don't think that
>way...I was shocked when the Vet called!!!!!
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>I don't know what we are going to do,,,,we need some kind of help but I
>don't know what?
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>with all of the medical bills that Mark's had over the last year and now
>with this, I just don't know, I just don't know how much more we can take.
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>My real purpose in writing was to have you send out a notice to all of the
>members to be aware of what happened to us, the real story, as you know the
>rumor mill will be working overtmeonthis onw! and to put them on the
>defensive and to be extra careful out there with their dogs...No one should
>have to go thru what we have been thru for the past 2 days and will
>continue to go thru for who knows how long. We are devastated to loose
>our kids and our entire breeding program but most of all our life as we
>know it is gone!!!
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>You just never even imagine that someone could do something like this. and
>worst of all it
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>had to be a dog person who knew dogs and picked only the show dogs and the
>breeding
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>dogs and leave the others...How can someone be soooo cruel.
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>I tried to call you and I left a message but I didn't know how many more
>times I could repeat this story, I'm having difficulty just trying to type
>it so please try to decipher it as best you can, I'm sorry if it is poorly
>written, it's the best ca doright now.
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>Thank you,
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>Beth & Mark Carr
Mark & Beths website:
http://www.mcbeths.com
I am so sorry - questions too
Were the dogs left in the car/van with the air on? Were the doors locked? Were they left in crates where anyone could get to them?
When you left to pick up a client's dog, where were your dogs? This is horrible and I am so sorry for this loss.
Re: FW: An all time low...
how sick!!!!!!!!!! some people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh my gosh!!!--
How can people be so ruthless?!!! How devestating for the Carr's-I can't even imagine how horrible that would be!
My heart goes out to them.
It amazes me that people can stoop SO low- {{{sigh}}}!
Sorry, above link is password protected,
which I had suspected, so I included the full article in my post.
I'm so sorry for the family to experience this...
I am sadly reminded of an incident in the show horse world in 2003:
http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=865424342&Fmt=10&clientId=13168&RQT=309&VName=HNP
"Mystery in the Bluegrass: Who Poisoned the Horses?"
The New York Times
By BILL MOONEY
VERSAILLES, Ky., July 20 â Wild-Eyed & Wicked was the Secretariat of show horses. Twice, the 11-year-old gelded saddlebred, valued at more than $1 million, had swept the five-gaited Triple Crown.
But Wild-Eyed & Wicked will never win another trophy or ribbon. On July 17, he and his 2-year-old gelded stablemate, Meet Prince Charming, were euthanized, almost three weeks after someone entered their stalls at the Double D Ranch on the night of June 28 and injected poison into their forelegs.
Three other saddlebreds at the ranch, near Lexington, were poisoned that night: Cat's Don't Dance, a 6-year-old gelding; Sassational, a 3-year-old filly; and Kiss Me, a 4-year-old filly.
Kiss Me was euthanized on July 18. Cat's Don't Dance was sent to the Hagyard-Davidson-McGee veterinary clinic in Lexington, where medical officials are guardedly optimistic about his chance of recovering. Sassational is expected to recover.
"But three of our horses were murdered," said David Lopez, a co-owner of Double D, with his wife, Dena. "I can't describe the agony they experienced."
The Kentucky State Police and the commonwealth's attorney for Woodford County are investigating the poisonings.
On the night they occurred, the front gate was opened, the watchdogs were in the house and the Lopezes were not at home.
All of the horses, with the exception of Sassational, had been scheduled to compete in the Lexington Junior League Horse Show, July 7-12, the first competition in the Triple Crown for American saddlebreds and an event that Wild-Eyed & Wicked had won in 2000 and in 2001. He also won the other jewels in the crown, the World's Championship Horse Show in Louisville and the American Royal Saddle Horse Show in Kansas City, Mo., for those years.
Wild-Eyed & Wicked's owners, Joe and Sally Jackson of Overland Park, Kan., had insured him, but only for a token amount, the Lopezes said.
The United Professional Horsemen's Association; USA Equestrian, which regulates championship horse shows; and private contributors are offering a reward of at least $100,000 for information leading to a conviction in the poisonings, said Karen Richardson, the association's executive secretary.
Investigators say they have no idea who poisoned the horses or what poison was used.
Dr. Ric Redden, who is leading the veterinary team that treated the horses, said the poison was injected into the hind side of the left foreleg of each horse.
"The agent denied blood circulation to the lower leg tissue, which destroyed it," Dr. Redden said.
Dr. Carol McLeod, another member of the veterinary team, added, "It kept eating away the tissue. It wouldn't stop."
Among the possible poisons is a massive dose of cobra venom. But Dr. Redden said the poison was probably less exotic. "One of dozens of things you'd find in a hardware store, or in a supermarket's cleaning supplies section," he said.
In the case of Wild-Eyed & Wicked, the area just below the left knee swelled to twice its normal size and became infected. Farther down his leg, just above the hoof, an egg-sized portion of the flesh dissolved.
"When a horse's leg is injured, his instinct forces him to keep it raised to avoid the pain," said Bridget Parker, the purchasing agent for the Double D Ranch. "But these animals weigh 1,000 pounds, and the stress of that weight then becomes concentrated on the other leg."
Ms. Parker said that Wild-Eyed & Wicked also developed laminitis, an inflammation of the layers of the hoof caused by poor blood circulation in a leg. Severe laminitis may cause a horse to literally step out of a hoof.
"Nearing the end, he couldn't stand up," Ms. Parker said.
Horse tampering is not not unknown in Kentucky. In 1996, someone shoved sponges up the noses of 10 thoroughbreds at the state's racetracks. No one has been charged.
Those cases led to enactment of a law making tampering with horses a Class D felony in Kentucky, punishable by one to five years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000 for each count, said Gordon W. Shaw, the commonwealth's attorney. "There'd be other charges attached, too, including misdemeanors."
At Double D, there has also been an emotional toll.
Saloman Gallegos, Wild-Eyed & Wicked's groom, said he spent weeks praying the horse would survive. Dena Lopez put a video camera in Wild-Eyed & Wicked's stall. She would lie in bed, "keeping a close eye on him throughout the night," she said.
The Lopezes bought Wild-Eyed & Wicked for the Jacksons in 1997. At the time, the gelding's résumé was undistinguished. But under Mrs. Lopez's training, the horse became a world champion.
In five-gaited competition, horses are judged by their performance in three natural movements â walk, trot and canter â and are taught two movements, the slow gait and the rack, a gait in which each hoof hits the ground separately in a four-beat cadence.
Meet Prince Charming was also of championship stock, winning two competitions this year.
The Lopezes say that whoever invaded their barn initially mistook Sassational for Meet Prince Charming.
"She has the same markings â a white star on the forehead, white socks on her rear legs, a silver mane and tail," Mrs. Lopez said.
Sassational received a low dose of poison, the veterinarians said. She also got a knot in her stomach, possible caused by a kick, suggesting she fought the intruder.
Wild-Eyed & Wicked and Meet Prince Charming were buried at Double D without autopsies, which is unusual for prominent show horses. "We have photos and hours of videos detailing the injuries and their treatments," Ms. Parker said. "We know what happened. We just don't know why."
Kiss Me was cremated, except for her forelegs, which were sent to the University of Kentucky's Livestock Disease Diagnostic Center for examination.
On a table in the Double D office is a large jar of green peppermints labeled, "For `Wicked' Only!" The Lopezes' daughter, Alyssa, 13, kept it filled. She loved treating her favorite horse.
OMG!
I dont know the Carr's, but this is something that will stay with me for awhile.... I cant imagine what THEY must be going thru, reading this post brought tears to my eyes! I travel to shows and am actually on the road right now, I dont know what I would do if I went to potty them and found them like that....they would be puttin me in a padded room! I hope they find out who did it, and lock them up! even though nothing would be justice enough for what they have done. What is with ppl these days? this is crazy! I dont know what else to say..... my heart goes out to the Carr's!
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Re: FW: An all time low...
Gee, what happened to the days of going to a show, showing your dogs, seeing your friends and having fun....What a shame that it has come to this. So sorry for your loss.
Re: FW: An all time low...
Now I want to talk or type which ever the case may be... After being in the dog world all these decades and seeing the Good, the Bad and the Ulgy... so I do know how horribly deceitful and hatefully people showing dogs can really be... passing their lies and innuendos as if passing salt across the table. I have seen people step on dogs toes ring side so they have a better chance at winning. I have seen words turn to fist fights ... Oh yes they were officers of the club sponsoring the show. People turning others in to AKC/BCA lying through their teeth just to show someone they can... and to my despair most believing them... After seeing all these horrors I thought I had seen it all... now this...
My God I want to scream... Enough is Enough... Please for the Gods sake LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE before someones child gets hurt too...
I guess it's attune to when Rome fell... all the decadents, perversions, and the sins that are so despicable to mention is now happening in our Dog World... hell happening in our World as I speak. How have we become so jaded? Is this what our love for our dogs have come too??? Is there any sanity left out there?
Terri
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HOW HORRIBLE! WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
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Andy