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Breeders Code Of Silence

After reading the posts below over the past several days I felt this was worth posting


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By Sierra Milton

What do most modern-day breeders and the Mafia have in common? What a strange question, you may say. It is, sadly though, a very real commonality. The answer is simply what Padgett, a well-known geneticist refers to as the “Code of Silence” for breeders and perhaps more commonly discussed as “omerta” for the Costa Nostra. Both are deadly silences. It’s easy to understand the reasons for the conspiracy of silence when it refers to criminals, but what reasons can a breeder possibly have for maintaining “omerta”?


The reason most often given for not sharing genetic information is the fear of being made the object of a “witch hunt.” It lies much deeper though. It begins with ownership and the human need to see what one owns as being the best. Remember the “keeping up with the Jones” mentality? Everyone wants the very best and the accolade of owning the best. Admitting that what one owns or has bred may have faults is difficult for most people. Also at fault is the huge financial and emotional investment that breeders have in their dogs. Discovering that there may be defects in the sires and dams that breeders have so much of themselves invested in becomes frightening and causes many to refuse to even contemplate that their dogs may possess defective genes. Egos and fear of being labelled “poor breeders” are ultimately the reasons for breeders maintaining this detrimental code of silence.


Even more dangerous than the Code of Silence though is the refusal to contemplate defective genes may exist within a breeding program and be present for generations, quietly meshing through many bloodlines before manifesting itself. Could it be possible that dogs which appear healthy can actually be spreading dangerous, sometimes lethal genes throughout the breed community until finally two healthy, but gene-defective carriers combine to produce that first tell-tale affected offspring?

Of course it is and time and again the geneticists tell us how this is possible.
Simplistically, breeders cannot see defective genes and what they don’t see must not exist. Therefore using that logic, all the untested dogs must be as beautifully healthy inside as they are structurally beautiful outside. If only that logic were true! Unfortunately, far more emphasis is placed upon structural and superficial beauty simply because it is something that is easily seen, acknowledged and obtained. It’s also something without any “unnecessary” financial investments. One doesn’t need to pay for x-rays or blood tests or specialists’ knowledge in order to evaluate how a dog conforms to a physical standard.
The real danger, though, comes not from those dogs who are tested, but from those breeders who keep their heads in the sand and refuse to believe that their dogs could be less than 'perfect'. We can begin to fix that which we reveal, but that which remains hidden is a threat to the future. But here omerta, that “Code of Silence” is very evident. Not only do these breeders hold fast to the belief that their dogs are untainted by defective genes, structural defects or temperament problems, but they also believe that no dog that they choose to bring into their breeding program through mating with their dogs could possibly be carriers either. After all, they only “breed to the best,” and of course, that best just has to be perfect.


Now the truly criminal act occurs. These breeders are quite often very successful in the show ring; their dogs are thought to be the best – after all, they have ribbons and placings and titles to prove how worthy their dogs are! Because of their show ring success, they are seen as breed authorities, people that newcomers to the breed trust for knowledge and information. And the information these newcomers get is that there are no genetic problems to be concerned with, no need to do that “expensive testing when the dogs are all healthy.” Even more disastrous to the breed’s future is that these breeders’ attitudes begin to prevail. The newcomers see the success of these breeders’ dogs and buy them (even though few, if any, have had even the most rudimentary testing for structural faults, poor health or defective genes). The newcomers then have a financial and emotional investment to protect which begins to spread this attitude, with predictable results. Soon, because these breeders are the “powers” within the breed (quite often judges, people selected to discuss the breed at seminars, breeders who command respective prices for puppies and stud fees, breeders seen winning), they use this “power” to ensure that it becomes unethical to discuss any defects, in either health or temperament, found in any of the pedigrees of their sires, dams or progeny of their sires or dams. All too often one hears “I don’t dare say anything if I want to win” or “there are three lines with epilepsy (or heart or eye or pick a health problem), but you don’t need to know about them.” Of course we need to know about them, how else are we to make intelligent decisions about which dogs would best benefit the future we plan for our dogs unless we consider not only the structural beauty, but also the hidden genetics that we are attempting to also improve?
What about the breeders who openly discuss the defects found in their own dogs? Unfortunately, they are all too often labelled as “poor breeders” and their dogs said to be “defective”. They are shunned and spoken of in whispers and sneers. The very fact that these breeders are striving to share knowledge openly and to scientifically test their dogs make these breeders the subject of witch hunts by the very people who are either too cheap, too unconcerned, too egotistical, too uncaring about the future to even test their dogs, much less have the courage to honestly discuss their dogs. Instead of applauding these breeders who choose to share information, these breeders become shunned and hounded. As a result, and because human nature makes us want to be part of a group instead of outside the group, breeders begin to do what they do best – they maintain silence and lie or refuse to admit what they do know.


As more and more newcomers join a breed and inexperienced breeders and exhibitors all jump on the bandwagon of showing, owning and practicing the art of breeding, they turn to the breeders who are winning, equating winning with superior quality dogs. The breeders are, therefore, more determined to have nothing bad revealed about any of their dogs, further establishing in their minds the perfection of the dogs they breed and further increasing the financial and emotional investment that they have in perpetuating this theory. Winning in the show ring has nothing to do with genetic health. Indeed, a number of the winning dogs are carriers of genetic disorders at the least and, in some instances, are known to have genetic health disorders. While a genetic disorder itself, depending upon type and severity, should never preclude the dog from the genetic pool, it is absolutely mandatory that people be aware of any area of concern in order to breed intelligently. At the very least, the dogs that the dog is bred to must be tested and their backgrounds looked at carefully to limit the possibility of affecting more dogs or making more dogs carriers of the disorder. Yet, because the winners don’t want to be labelled as “poor breeders” and lose the accolade of being the best (as well as the possible financial loss in not being able to sell puppies or stud fees at as high a price), the “Code of Silence” becomes even more firmly embraced.


The newcomers, because they want to be accepted, avoid talking about the sires and dams that produce poorly, whether it is structure, health or temperament problems. Also, they too now have a financial and emotional investment in addition to wanting to be accepted into the “winners club.” They may even recognize trends in one or more lines in their own pedigrees, but refuse to acknowledge these trends and keep them secret for fear of being labelled.


Often, the breeders, while not openly acknowledging that there are any problems, will attempt to dilute the possibility of the disorder rearing its head by out-breeding to another totally different line. Dr. Jerold Bell, a well-known geneticist, has this to say about this method: “Repeated out-breeding to attempt to dilute detrimental recessive genes is not a desirable method of genetic disease control. Recessive genes cannot be diluted; they are either present or not. Out-breeding carriers multiples and further spreads the defective gene(s) in the gene pool. If a dog is a known carrier or has high carrier risk through pedigree analysis, it can be retired from breeding, and replaced with one or two quality offspring. Those offspring should be bred, and replaced with quality offspring of their own, with the hope of losing the defective gene.”


Unfortunately, refusing to acknowledge or test for genetic disorders doesn’t make them go away. What we can’t see still has a huge impact on the breed and continuing to breed these carriers of defective genes allows the defect to take a firmer hold in the breed. Those breeders who try very hard to breed healthy dogs and take every scientific precaution to ensure genetic health are shunned for the very passion that should be applauded; the efforts they take are trivialized at best and more often ridiculed as “unnecessary” or “fear-mongering.” As a result, these breeders work alone and, outside of their own kennel, their efforts make little impact on the breed as a whole.


Omerta can only be broken by people who have the courage, conviction and passion to ensure that the breed as a whole becomes stronger and healthier. Instead of witch hunts for those who have the heartache of dealing with the problems, the goal of applauding those with the courage and determination to speak out openly should be taken up by every breed club in every country. Awards in addition to those given to breeders who have the most winning dogs should be given to those breeders who work tirelessly to improve the breed. Prettiness and beauty doesn’t improve a breed; genetic health and the ability to live a pain-free, healthy life far surpass beauty, but are more difficult to obtain.


The cost of genetic testing is not high when one looks at the effects that refusing to test may have on the breed. Ask any knowledgeable breeder whose breed has rampant heart, blood disorder, eye or hip problems whether they blame the lack of foresight and the refusal of past breeders in making a further financial investment in the breed for the almost insurmountable problems now and the answer is predictable. In the UK, it is possible to do testing by certified specialists for hip, elbow, eye, heart, blood, immune disorders for around a total investment of £295.00 (far less in the United States), less than a cost of a puppy or a stud fee. It’s possible to do far less testing, but at what cost? Will the breed suffer from heart problems in the future because a simple £7.50 stethoscope test (done through one of the breed-sponsored heart clinics, in this case the Boxer) was not important at the time? Will the breed be faced with trying to eradicate blindness years from now because a £16.00 eye exam (done through one of the many eye clinics held each month or free if done at Crufts dog show at the clinic they hold each year) was thought unwarranted? Will the descendants be filled with pain from bad hips and/or elbows because the breed moved well in the show ring and didn’t look dysplastic to the naked eye? (X-rays necessary for hip and elbow evaluations are the most expensive testing at a cost of approximately £110 for hips and an additional £80 for elbows when done with the hips; unfortunately it takes six different films to evaluate elbows and the cost reflects the number of films necessary.) Testing for things such as von Willebrand’s Disease (vWD) and thyroid testing (immune system) can be done inexpensively as blood tests at perhaps £30 and £50 each. Granted, testing for these genetic disorders won’t guarantee that a problem won’t occur in future breedings, but testing will greatly reduce the chances of problems and that is a good place to start.
If a breeder cannot provide proof in the form of veterinarian-issued certificates or reports that genetic testing has been done, the buyer should be aware that they purchase at their own risk! Caveat emptor! Breeders may claim that their dogs have never limped or that there is no need to do any testing because the breed is healthy. Some may even claim that their veterinarians have said that genetic testing was unnecessary. Those stances are irresponsible. Once again, genes are not visible and carriers of defective genes may themselves appear healthy to the naked eye. It is only with testing that we really know whether our dogs are affected or not and only then with honest evaluation of pedigrees having tested or affected dogs that the potentiality for carriers are realized.


What can we do to break the deadly Code of Silence? The majority, if not all, breed clubs have a code of ethics that require members to breed healthy dogs. One of the places to start is with the clubs. Instead of being social institutions or “good ole boy” clubs, these breed organizations could begin upholding the very real goal of protecting the future of the breed by demanding and requiring that genetic testing be undertaken prior to breeding. Far more serious than breeding a sixteen-month old bitch is the practice of breeding without taking every possible safeguard that genetic health is a priority. Yet, in many clubs “poor breeders” are identified by the age at which they breed or the frequency in which they breed rather than the very real criteria that proof of health be mandatory. Take the emphasis off winning – how many clubs determine “breeder of the year” based on the number of progeny that wins? Are there clubs that actually require that the breeder also must show proof that they are doing all they can do to ensure the future of the breed?


We can break the silence by commending those with the courage and determination to talk about problems, share successes and knowledge instead of ostracizing them. Omerta fails if every puppy buyer and stud dog user demands that proof of genetic testing is shown. The Code of Silence fails when we realize that it is not enough to breed winning dogs or to command the highest price for puppies or to have a stud dog that is used fifty, sixty, a hundred times; we must take back the passion with which we all first embraced our breeds and passionately work with determination toward a future where the numbers of genetic disorders are reduced each year.


If those you know breed without testing, ask yourself why – is it lack of courage in perhaps finding a carrier within their breeding stock? Is it because they fear a financial loss if they test? Is it because they truly believe that their dogs couldn’t possibly be less than perfect? Is it because they fear they will lose their “top breeder” standing if they admit that there are problems that need working on? Is it because they fear that it will be harder to breed beautiful and healthy dogs? Or have they lost the passion with which they first loved the breed while they were climbing the road to winning success? Or, more sadly, is it because they really just don’t care about that which they cannot actually see?


It’s hard work and takes great courage to develop a breeding program using scientific methods and tests, but the hope of a better future should drive us all to that very commitment. The key is being able to work together without fear of whispers or silence. Omerta, the code of silence, can be broken if more of us decide that we are not going to tolerate the quiet any longer.


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Re: Xray vs MRI

Good luck.
I think you (and many people) are in the same boat and will need to outwit the situation.
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Action

I would like to see the dog in action for a longer time, like during a walk or just playing with his owner.

The short stretches in the ring give an impression, but the longer a dog walks/moves, the more you can see (endurance, movement etc).

About character, to judge a dog character on the way he behaves in his crate is rather limited. May be it is a high energy dog not getting enough exercise, or a dog that has a bad experience while being in his crate.....
Or just plain lack of training....

Ineke

since you asked.......

Just keep your eyes open. What do you consider secret anyway.. really?
I have seen several posts eluding to secrets being kept. Can some of you define what this means? I mean I think I know, but I want to see this pulled apart and discussed.
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I have tried to openly discuss this with people......but find that no one "knows" anything about it. (Just a few others, 3 people that I know, who like me are wondering where it came from.)

The spinal issues, which with x-rays show a spine that looks normal, but the puppies have varying depths of a dimple close to the tail, and varying degrees of incontinence.

This is one subject I would love to see openly discussed. This subject for sure "seems" to be "omerta." (Ut-oh, I better go lock my doors and board up my windows. LOL)

Re: Xray vs MRI

Thank-you, I appreciate you sharing that. That will be useful information for me.

This is one of those instances were it would be nice to find out if there is a common link somewhere. I can only go by the couple of dogs locally here that have been affected, no-one in this area has "ever" had it or heard of it, before this. I just find it interesting that the gene has just now mysteriously popped up. (and the fact that my dogs are the same lines as most everyone's) I'm not interested in pointing fingers at any particuliar dog/line, I just would like to be able to breed with my eyes wide open.

Or if it truly is just my dogs......I can start over.

Don't Forget

Don't forget the "secrets" that are created out of thin air and perpetuated even though no one has actually seen or put their hands on the supposed issues. These often take on a life of their own. I know of one such "secret" that was spread and it was about one of a particular animal's best features and a breeder later admitted to the co-owner that it became an issue even though none of the owners were ever asked about it.

If you hear something, often it is best to go straight to the owners and find out if it is true. BUT, also look for yourself.

Elizabeth's advice about looking at the dogs is invaluable. Watch them when they show in the puppy classes and keep your eyes on them as they continue to show in subsequent classes, unless of course they finish out of the puppy classes. Watch them as they enter and exit the ring. The ones that have to be restrained and/or kept in a corner because they'll attack anything that comes close are always interesting. What about those that are in their crates and just explode when a dog walks by? I know of a situation recently where newer exhibitors were yelled at for "disturbing" such a dog by merely standing close to the crate.

How about the ones that need all the ice and cool coats even though it's freezing?

And it doesn't have to be about health or temperament. Structural issues are sometimes readily evident if you just watch the dogs and the offspring.

Jay

another side

Wow, this paints every breeder as being sinister secret-keepers... decidedly inaccuare to paint us all this way, IMO.

I think the big problem is that to many of you refuse to actually look at the dogs with your own eyes.

So many breeders are using dogs they have never seen, never seen offspring other than what is being shown, and never seen the ancestors.

Many people own stud dogs who are their very first bulldogs. I don't assume that they are keeping any secrets, they just have no idea what's behind the dog.. same with some breeders. They are new and they are clueless about what is behind their dogs. I would not call this keeping secrets as much as being completely ignorant of the background. And hopefully they will learn in time what is lurking beneath and then care enough to do something about it.

Then you have the issue of not many true bloodlines being perpetuated by long time breeders.
Truly, the amount of long timers vs newer breeders is proportionatley low. Lots of newer breeders trying differnt things with no real direction. Of course many things about the breed is running amok.

Just keep your eyes open. What do you consider secret anyway.. really?
I have seen several posts eluding to secrets being kept. Can some of you define what this means? I mean I think I know, but I want to see this pulled apart and discussed.
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Re: Breeders Code Of Silence

Hope I see the day it is broken - for good.

Thank you for posting.

- Kim

Xray vs MRI

Sherri,
I got into a wide-ranging discussion with my vet about health testing a few weeks ago and the spinal issue came up. According to him, spinal x-rays might not "see" spina bifida (he had some experience with that), apparently an MRI needs to be done to confirm if it's suspected . . . that might explain the incontinence going along with a dimple and a spine that looks normal on x-ray.

Sharon

Re: I'll bite... lol

Naomi, good thoughts and opinions there. thanks

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I'll bite... lol

In my opinion, the most important test would be Cardiac... even though I dont think it is as useful right now as will be in the future. But to make it useful we would need more and more people to have this test done on dogs they are planning to breed (or not breed for that matter!)so in time we can make more educated decisions.

Even though the OFA database ultimately identifies and classifies dogs which are phenotypically normal or abnormal at the time of the test, I personally dont think the heritable aspects of Congenital Heart Disease can be addressed until specific genetic testing can be conducted. However, developing and deciding which genetic tests would be appropriate for a breed cannot be done until the problem is identified within the population.

In my opinion, our breed is still at the very beginning of a database. The good news is that as this database is populated, we can begin incorporating information not only on the parent's phenotype into our breeding decisions, but phenotypic information from close relatives such as siblings, half siblings, aunts, uncles, grand-sires, and grand-dams into our decision as well. This will allow us to make a more accurate assumption regarding the potential sire and dam's genotype, and allows them to apply greater selective pressure to produce the healthy traites that we want... healthy hearts for one!

Other than cardiac, I have also done thyroid, patellas and the trachea study. I will be doing CERF at the next clinic I attend...

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Good Read .

Thank you for sharing Margie.

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Could I ask what you all think of this

i would really like to know this, with all the tests out there. hearts, knees, hips, trachs,etc... what do you think is the minimum tests that should be done for the stud dog. i mean some peopel do nothing im sure, some do one or two, some do all, i understand that all is best, but i dont see everyone doing all them anytime soon, is there a suggestive procedure for minimums or better yet, what tests do you feel shoudl be first priority.

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Cooling Materials

Dennis,

Please look at the context of what I wrote. When it's hot and necessary, by all means, keep the dogs cool.

Jay

Agree Dennis...

I use them for the same reasons.

Cool collars...

Jay,

Just because a dog has a cool coat and or collar on does not mean the dog is a bad breather. Do not confuse the two. My dogs have been excellent breathers and I still use the product. I want the judge to get a good look at my exhibit without my hand in the way if at all possible. A healthy clear pant is still a pant and it can keep the judge from seeing my dog at it's best. I have seen the cool collars work well on dogs that are ADD, or high strung. It gives them something to think about besides being anxious or nervous. This does not make them bad breathers.


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And his temperment is excellent.

I have done testing...

On Rodeo for his heart and Trach. His next test will be spine & eyes. If I am going to use him as a Stud I feel it very important to have these test done.

spines

I agree that this is an ever expanding and troubling issue. Might seem more-so due to the internet and more comunication, either way, yes, something to be alarmed about.
Discuss bulldog spines with your veterinarian to get a sense about what is going on with the dogs he or she sees.
Also, get involved with the OFA spinal database research. Get your own dogs evaluated, even if you do not want to participate in the study. Why wouldn't you want to know?
http://www.offa.org/spineappbw.pdf
I have recently heard of some breeders "brushing off" this spinal dimple thing as no big deal. I guess you need to put it into perspective for yourself. If you are worried, get your own breeding stock x-rayed and get the stud dog to do the same if you are going to an outside dog. If the owner flat out refuses, maybe wonder why. You can get even a rough over view of the spine with out putting the dog "under"..
If you hear rumours, get the facts. Look at the dogs and their offspring FOR YOURSELF..DON'T RELY ON SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU. Some rumours are indeed based on truth, but some are not. And yes, it takes two to tango, but some issues do originate from certain families for sure, and if you are inclined to linebreed, for whatever your reasons, it is so wise to be as informed as you can.
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im tired of the stud being the reason for the problems

i was talking with another bulldogger the other day. THey have a great boy, but dont want to use him as they dont want him trashed talked if something comes up.

1/2 THE BREEDING IS FROM THE BITCH TOO

The more a dog is used with a variety of bitches things are going to come up. I also think if a stud owner has seen a track that certain breedings with lines or pedigrees didnt mix and had some big health issues they should let the bitch owner know that their has been an issue. Of course that is if the bitch owner in prevous litters have let the stud know of problems.


On the panting in the ring, of course it can be structure but also anxiety.


Vicky

Re: Don't Forget

Jay wrote: If you hear something, often it is best to go straight to the owners and find out if it is true. BUT, also look for yourself.

Excellent point Jay! I recently heard of a stud dog being flamed by someone who had never seen this this particular dog that they were so trashing!!!

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THe problem is no one wants to talk about it

and if the dog/bitch comes up with the problem they are put down and never spoken about.

If things are not discussed who do we know how to prevent it. Folic acid helps prevent, but does it just cover up a gene that the dog/bitch carry. THen you do a breeding where you may have 2 -6 common dogs in a pedigree or ancestors of the common and boom you have a problem.

It's not all the studs fault either. Bitches carry genes too which when mixed together boomb

good point

I am always amazed at the number of dog-aggressive dogs I see at shows. I am referring to all breeds, not just bulldogs. What is even more amazing is that most of the people with these dogs either ignore it, deny it, make excuses for it or blame someone else/someone else's dog. I consider bringing aggressive dogs to any public gathering reckless endangerment. It infuriates me (in case you couldn't tell!) Don't even get me started on people who breed aggressive dogs...

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