I was told by a few people that my Lil Bullseye has an eye ulcer. What exactly is an eye ulcer & why would it cause the pupil to turn blue? Also, what type of treatment(s) are required? Once treated, can there be repeat occurences?
-Thank you very much!!!!
Kim
corneal ulcers
Rubydooby,
Thank you for the very useful info!! Its bad that people who have animals had to go through this, but, on the flipside, its kinda good because info is passed on to other people, such as myself, who are going through it with their animal(s). Its very nice to know that people still try to help one another in any way possible, & I thank you for that!!
Thank you again!!!!
Kim
corneal ulcers
Rubydooby,
Thank you for the very useful info!! Its bad that people who have animals had to go through this, but, on the flipside, its kinda good because info is passed on to other people, such as myself, who are going through it with their animal(s). Its very nice to know that people still try to help one another in any way possible, & I thank you for that!!
Thank you again!!!!
Kim
yes...
The tear gland that normally sits down in the inside corner, when it ruptures and shows, is called "cherry eye" and some vets advocate removing it rather that surgically repositioning it...mostly because the repositioning isn't always done correctly and the gland pops up again. However for the sake of discussion of dry-eye, know that removing this gland can result in a loss of up to 40% of the eye's moisture production. There are other smaller tear glands within the orbital structure that will be working hard to support the moisture needed to allow the eyelid to "glide" over the cornea, not to rub it. Often the dog whose corner gland has been removed and who develops dyr-eye later in life (not all do this) will need artificial tears or ointment during the day in addition to the cyclosporine Rx medication. The chance of that happening is, to my way of thinking, enough of a risk to try keeping the gland by repositioning surgery rather than removal. Its an often-discussed topic here...some who have had it snipped out, without use of anesthesia, feel quite satisfied with that decision and as I said, not all dogs will develop dry-eye (or KCS as it is known in medical terms) so any decision may be something you will face in the future, or not.
yes...
The tear gland that normally sits down in the inside corner, when it ruptures and shows, is called "cherry eye" and some vets advocate removing it rather that surgically repositioning it...mostly because the repositioning isn't always done correctly and the gland pops up again. However for the sake of discussion of dry-eye, know that removing this gland can result in a loss of up to 40% of the eye's moisture production. There are other smaller tear glands within the orbital structure that will be working hard to support the moisture needed to allow the eyelid to "glide" over the cornea, not to rub it. Often the dog whose corner gland has been removed and who develops dyr-eye later in life (not all do this) will need artificial tears or ointment during the day in addition to the cyclosporine Rx medication. The chance of that happening is, to my way of thinking, enough of a risk to try keeping the gland by repositioning surgery rather than removal. Its an often-discussed topic here...some who have had it snipped out, without use of anesthesia, feel quite satisfied with that decision and as I said, not all dogs will develop dry-eye (or KCS as it is known in medical terms) so any decision may be something you will face in the future, or not.
Re: pupil turnin blue
Jessica, I can't thank you enough for your time & effort in educating me in this matter. It is greatly appreciated!!!! I'm takin my Lil Bullseye to the vet on Monday. In the meantime, I will adhere to the advice you provided for me. I will make certain to give you an update on this matter.
Thank you again, so much!! Its nice to know these acts of kindness still exist!!!!
Thanks again, Jessica
Kim
Re: pupil turnin blue
Jessica, I can't thank you enough for your time & effort in educating me in this matter. It is greatly appreciated!!!! I'm takin my Lil Bullseye to the vet on Monday. In the meantime, I will adhere to the advice you provided for me. I will make certain to give you an update on this matter.
Thank you again, so much!! Its nice to know these acts of kindness still exist!!!!
Thanks again, Jessica
Kim
One other thing...
'dry eye' can be the cause of ulcers in the older dog...CYCLOSPORINE (drops for the eye, used daily for the rest of their life) is a great treatment for a dog that has had their tear duct removed as a young dog due to 'cherry eye'
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One other thing...
'dry eye' can be the cause of ulcers in the older dog...CYCLOSPORINE (drops for the eye, used daily for the rest of their life) is a great treatment for a dog that has had their tear duct removed as a young dog due to 'cherry eye'
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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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I have seen numerous corneal ulcers...
...due to trauma, a foreign object scratching the cornea...say a dewclaw or rough housing with another dog. One of my dogs stuck his head in the hedge and got one. The cornea turns hazy and blue color in response...if it is deep enough you may need to have the VET OPHTHALMOLOGIST anesthetize the eye, scrape the lens and put a human BOSCH AND LOMB lens on the eye, the initial intention healing will start with the artificial lens within 24 hours. You have to make sure they wear the 'cone collar' and put the drops in, religiously.
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I also had on of my bully girls get a 'spontaneous' ulcer in one eye and then we no sooner got it healed and the other eye got one! Once they were healed that was the end of it.
You cannot fool around with a corneal ulcer...get it treated immediately. Infection is the big concern.
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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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I have seen numerous corneal ulcers...
...due to trauma, a foreign object scratching the cornea...say a dewclaw or rough housing with another dog. One of my dogs stuck his head in the hedge and got one. The cornea turns hazy and blue color in response...if it is deep enough you may need to have the VET OPHTHALMOLOGIST anesthetize the eye, scrape the lens and put a human BOSCH AND LOMB lens on the eye, the initial intention healing will start with the artificial lens within 24 hours. You have to make sure they wear the 'cone collar' and put the drops in, religiously.
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I also had on of my bully girls get a 'spontaneous' ulcer in one eye and then we no sooner got it healed and the other eye got one! Once they were healed that was the end of it.
You cannot fool around with a corneal ulcer...get it treated immediately. Infection is the big concern.
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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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I thought you said the dog had recently had a bath...
shampoo or soap left in the eye can cause enough irritation to cause the uppermost layer of the cornea to ulcer. The bluish or grayish color you see is actually swelling of the cornea, which is normally transparent, but when irritated it becomes "cloudy" and that can give off a bluish or grayish tint. This would apply to the trauma of a scratch also.
I think the cornea has three layers and when the ulcer is deep, penetrating into that 2nd or 3rd layer, the eye is in danger of losing sight, and that's when the 3rd eyelid is sewn up as a "natural bandage" over the ulcer to support the healing, along with the medication. And as I've explained earlier, when the ulcer has a "ridge of cells surrounding the opening" and preventing new cells from branching across to close the hole, a procedure called Keratotomy is performed to remove/debride those damaged/preventing edges so that new cells can grow and heal the eye. In the cases of the deepest and most-resistant ulcers, where the above procedures were not successful, a small patch of soft tissue from within the eyelid area is sewn over the damage/ulcer to prevent puncture/loss of vision and this remains in place, shrinking a bit with time, but it IS visible...yet the vision was saved in these instances and that's the greater benefit. I hope this answers some of your questions. 
If the ulceration is superficial and recent, usually 1-2 weeks of antibiotic is enough to boost the eye back to health, but if in the case of eyelashes/hairs constantly irritating the cornea with the blink of each movement during the day, every day, the ulcer can't heal as fast as the new irritation being felt.
I thought you said the dog had recently had a bath...
shampoo or soap left in the eye can cause enough irritation to cause the uppermost layer of the cornea to ulcer. The bluish or grayish color you see is actually swelling of the cornea, which is normally transparent, but when irritated it becomes "cloudy" and that can give off a bluish or grayish tint. This would apply to the trauma of a scratch also.
I think the cornea has three layers and when the ulcer is deep, penetrating into that 2nd or 3rd layer, the eye is in danger of losing sight, and that's when the 3rd eyelid is sewn up as a "natural bandage" over the ulcer to support the healing, along with the medication. And as I've explained earlier, when the ulcer has a "ridge of cells surrounding the opening" and preventing new cells from branching across to close the hole, a procedure called Keratotomy is performed to remove/debride those damaged/preventing edges so that new cells can grow and heal the eye. In the cases of the deepest and most-resistant ulcers, where the above procedures were not successful, a small patch of soft tissue from within the eyelid area is sewn over the damage/ulcer to prevent puncture/loss of vision and this remains in place, shrinking a bit with time, but it IS visible...yet the vision was saved in these instances and that's the greater benefit. I hope this answers some of your questions. 
If the ulceration is superficial and recent, usually 1-2 weeks of antibiotic is enough to boost the eye back to health, but if in the case of eyelashes/hairs constantly irritating the cornea with the blink of each movement during the day, every day, the ulcer can't heal as fast as the new irritation being felt.
Alot of time
trauma can cause it, or as stated in post above. If you are able to get on it now, medications CAN heal it up. I had one on my older boy, caused by some type of grass type/pine needle. Luckily the opthalogist was able to flush it out. In two days it had went so deep, his cornea was in jeopardy of bursting. He was on strict crate rest, no playing, no collars on nothing b/cause any type of pressure could rupture it (Now this is a worse case scenario...you could actually see a crater on his eye) But with time and diligent...and I do mean DILIGENT cosistency giving his eyes meds round the clock (about every 2-3 hrs) and he was on quite a few it completely healed. It was worth the effort to save his eye.
That is why an eye issue is so important not to go to the way side.
Alot of time
trauma can cause it, or as stated in post above. If you are able to get on it now, medications CAN heal it up. I had one on my older boy, caused by some type of grass type/pine needle. Luckily the opthalogist was able to flush it out. In two days it had went so deep, his cornea was in jeopardy of bursting. He was on strict crate rest, no playing, no collars on nothing b/cause any type of pressure could rupture it (Now this is a worse case scenario...you could actually see a crater on his eye) But with time and diligent...and I do mean DILIGENT cosistency giving his eyes meds round the clock (about every 2-3 hrs) and he was on quite a few it completely healed. It was worth the effort to save his eye.
That is why an eye issue is so important not to go to the way side.
Most likely from trauma
Entropian or Distichia can cause an ulcer due to the eye lashes rubbing against the eye. Ulcers are VERY painful and need treatment as soon as possible.

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Most likely from trauma
Entropian or Distichia can cause an ulcer due to the eye lashes rubbing against the eye. Ulcers are VERY painful and need treatment as soon as possible.

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