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Sorry, another limping question

I've read some prior posts, and after 2 vet visits and following their advice on resting, limping still occurs for 1-2 minutes after she gets up from her crate upon resting. We started her on Gluocosamine/cronditin last week also. I scheduled an appt for xrays June 1 which will be sent to an orthopedic vet for consult. Issue is prior posts say do not sedate, and I'd rather not too. My vet says that in order to fully position the hips and knees at an angle for her to get a good xray they need to. It will be the same anesthia w/IV catheter they used 2 months ago when she got spayed. You all have given me great advice, and were always right, does anyone have advice? Thank you in advance!

Question

How much are the monthly injections? Is there surgery in the future or is that not needed because of the injections.. Lola is doing well and resting her is hard but I fear her hip may have been too far along to just assume rest will fix it.. She only limps after playing real hard but I fear I rest her for 8 weeks and I will see her limp again with no progress so if I can be doing anything now to treat I would want to..

Question

How much are the monthly injections? Is there surgery in the future or is that not needed because of the injections.. Lola is doing well and resting her is hard but I fear her hip may have been too far along to just assume rest will fix it.. She only limps after playing real hard but I fear I rest her for 8 weeks and I will see her limp again with no progress so if I can be doing anything now to treat I would want to..

LDeLeo's picture

Bella limps too

Bella is 7 months old, went out to the bathroom and came back in liming a little bit, ran her down to the vet's office, (I am not a waiter), they manipulated her leg and she was even worse.  They suggested crate rest, I mean all the time, 24/7.  Leash walking only, for a week straight, so I feel your pain.  It's really hard but a week's worht of rest and she is back to normal.

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Bella limps too

Bella is 7 months old, went out to the bathroom and came back in liming a little bit, ran her down to the vet's office, (I am not a waiter), they manipulated her leg and she was even worse.  They suggested crate rest, I mean all the time, 24/7.  Leash walking only, for a week straight, so I feel your pain.  It's really hard but a week's worht of rest and she is back to normal.

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hmmm

its been our experience that a long term limp means something is wrong. sometimes it is "panosteitis" growing pain type of thing but most often something is wrong. you end up crate resting you're dog on n off for 6/8 weeks then end up in surgery with another 2 months of crate rest.

harlow started limping at 7 months. i rested, supplemented, and did everything i could possible do. tried to avoid sedation xrays, finally after 4 months of this we had her sedated and xrayed. elbow displasia, mild hip dysplasia. we had the fragments removed from her elbows and the occasional limp on the back leg, well a luxating patella (grade 2). she had that surgery 2 weeks ago.

we were referred to a highly recommended/qualified specialist trained at davis who has a surgical speciality center in so. pasadena (i'm outside of L.A.).

harlow is doing fabulous. we are extremely stict and obeying the instructions to the letter. these dogs are tougher then we give them credit for. the sedation they give them for xrays is not deep, i know this after a discussion on body temp after surgery vs. xrays. as long as the protocol for bullies is maintained you're bully will be fine. there is always a risk with anesthesia, with bullies or humans. the longer you wait for a diagnosis if there is a problem the more arithritis that is settling in.

good luck and all the best.

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hmmm

its been our experience that a long term limp means something is wrong. sometimes it is "panosteitis" growing pain type of thing but most often something is wrong. you end up crate resting you're dog on n off for 6/8 weeks then end up in surgery with another 2 months of crate rest.

harlow started limping at 7 months. i rested, supplemented, and did everything i could possible do. tried to avoid sedation xrays, finally after 4 months of this we had her sedated and xrayed. elbow displasia, mild hip dysplasia. we had the fragments removed from her elbows and the occasional limp on the back leg, well a luxating patella (grade 2). she had that surgery 2 weeks ago.

we were referred to a highly recommended/qualified specialist trained at davis who has a surgical speciality center in so. pasadena (i'm outside of L.A.).

harlow is doing fabulous. we are extremely stict and obeying the instructions to the letter. these dogs are tougher then we give them credit for. the sedation they give them for xrays is not deep, i know this after a discussion on body temp after surgery vs. xrays. as long as the protocol for bullies is maintained you're bully will be fine. there is always a risk with anesthesia, with bullies or humans. the longer you wait for a diagnosis if there is a problem the more arithritis that is settling in.

good luck and all the best.

Jacinda and the bullies's picture

It's also used for arthritis

It's been great for Morgan. I believe at the start, she had to have one shot a week for a month and then once a month after that.

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It's also used for arthritis

It's been great for Morgan. I believe at the start, she had to have one shot a week for a month and then once a month after that.

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Humm wonder

If I should look into getting lola these Adequan shots? I just have a gut feeling rest is not going to fully recover her and dont want to waste 8 weeks when I can be resting her and treating her medically.. Do they only offer these shots to dogs that have hip displayia or can it be used for less serious cases?

Humm wonder

If I should look into getting lola these Adequan shots? I just have a gut feeling rest is not going to fully recover her and dont want to waste 8 weeks when I can be resting her and treating her medically.. Do they only offer these shots to dogs that have hip displayia or can it be used for less serious cases?

Jacinda and the bullies's picture

We don't plan on surgery

The surgery is something we are trying to avoid and the Adequan helps tremendously and she does not limp at all. The cost of the shots vary from Vet to Vet. I pay anywhere between $20-$28 per shot.


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We don't plan on surgery

The surgery is something we are trying to avoid and the Adequan helps tremendously and she does not limp at all. The cost of the shots vary from Vet to Vet. I pay anywhere between $20-$28 per shot.


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Limps are so frustrating

Morgan started limping at age 2. At first it was only when she first stood up after waking from a nap. Then, it got progressively worse. The Vet did xrays and she was not sedated. She was diagnosed with hip dysplasia. We have been successfully treating it with monthly Adequan injections.

My 7 month old puppy was recently diagnosed with "growing pains". He has a very slight limp on his front leg. We are treating it with Rimadyl.

Good luck with your dog. There are so many reasons for limping.

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Limps are so frustrating

Morgan started limping at age 2. At first it was only when she first stood up after waking from a nap. Then, it got progressively worse. The Vet did xrays and she was not sedated. She was diagnosed with hip dysplasia. We have been successfully treating it with monthly Adequan injections.

My 7 month old puppy was recently diagnosed with "growing pains". He has a very slight limp on his front leg. We are treating it with Rimadyl.

Good luck with your dog. There are so many reasons for limping.

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Lola limps

after a bout of hard running and playing.. This happen on three occastions and she only limped for 24 hours and stopped so I just ignored it.. I then realized when she wasnt limping she was actually favoring her leg. I found out by picking up her rear legs, the one that was hurt came up right away and the one that was fine was hard to pick up, that was because she was putting all her weight on it.. I regret not getting her to the vet sooner.. What alarms me is you have been to the vet twice and you are still unsure of what is going on.. did the vet manipulate your dogs leg? If they did then they should have been able to rule out hip/knee and joint issues.. My vet layed lola on her side and as soon as he manipulated her hip he felt the looseness and lola reacted.. If its a pulled muscle then the xray is pointless. I would go to another vet who has an orthopedic background.. I good one can tell you without an xray..

How long did you rest your dog and how much gluco are you giving..


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Lola limps

after a bout of hard running and playing.. This happen on three occastions and she only limped for 24 hours and stopped so I just ignored it.. I then realized when she wasnt limping she was actually favoring her leg. I found out by picking up her rear legs, the one that was hurt came up right away and the one that was fine was hard to pick up, that was because she was putting all her weight on it.. I regret not getting her to the vet sooner.. What alarms me is you have been to the vet twice and you are still unsure of what is going on.. did the vet manipulate your dogs leg? If they did then they should have been able to rule out hip/knee and joint issues.. My vet layed lola on her side and as soon as he manipulated her hip he felt the looseness and lola reacted.. If its a pulled muscle then the xray is pointless. I would go to another vet who has an orthopedic background.. I good one can tell you without an xray..

How long did you rest your dog and how much gluco are you giving..


Keep us posted

Dave

it seems like we have similiar issues. Vet does not think its hip or knees, maybe a pulled muscle or ligament. I am concerned from other posts thought it was nothing and their bully torn a ccl. Resting has been in a crate, and just leash walking. The only thing we changed was no playing with other dogs. Is Lola also just limping after she wakes up? Olivia acts as if nothing is wrong. I will take your advice and see if I can find someone to do it without sedation.Thanks

Dave

it seems like we have similiar issues. Vet does not think its hip or knees, maybe a pulled muscle or ligament. I am concerned from other posts thought it was nothing and their bully torn a ccl. Resting has been in a crate, and just leash walking. The only thing we changed was no playing with other dogs. Is Lola also just limping after she wakes up? Olivia acts as if nothing is wrong. I will take your advice and see if I can find someone to do it without sedation.Thanks

Advice

Hello..did the vets say if this was knee or hip issues? I see you mentioned two vet visits.. How long were the rest periods for your dog and what was rest crate all day.. lesh walking? I am in the process of resting lola and it is tough so I feel for you.. If she hasjoint issues I would wait and allow time for the joint supplements to kick in, they take some time but I would not put your dog under.. I think there are other vets out there that can be succefull in getting a xray w/o putting her under.. I will let other more experienced people chime in but I have always been told that you want to avoid that at all cost..

Advice

Hello..did the vets say if this was knee or hip issues? I see you mentioned two vet visits.. How long were the rest periods for your dog and what was rest crate all day.. lesh walking? I am in the process of resting lola and it is tough so I feel for you.. If she hasjoint issues I would wait and allow time for the joint supplements to kick in, they take some time but I would not put your dog under.. I think there are other vets out there that can be succefull in getting a xray w/o putting her under.. I will let other more experienced people chime in but I have always been told that you want to avoid that at all cost..

Pain Tolerance, Meds & Surgery

My bully was diagnosed with severe degenerative joint disease when she was 3 1/2. She took Rimadyl for about 3 years until she tore both her CCL. Once the TPLO surgery was a must, we went ahead and scoped both elbows to remove all of the spurs. She recovered well, but in questioning my vet about 6 months post op about alternatives to Rimadyl, he recommended Deramaxx. That stuff was amazing. The difference in her was almost immediate! My non expert opinion...if one thing you're trying, rest, meds, etc., doesn't seem to be giving them enough relief ask the vet and research alternatives. In addition, I kept her on Synovi G3, which is a glucosamine supplement, and prescription dog food.
Going through all of this, I did not hesitate to have her sedated because I had a wonderful vet who was very familiar with bulldogs. From what I have read and been told by my vet, bulldogs have an incredibly high pain tolerance and should not be treated conservatively once they show signs of pain.

Pain Tolerance, Meds & Surgery

My bully was diagnosed with severe degenerative joint disease when she was 3 1/2. She took Rimadyl for about 3 years until she tore both her CCL. Once the TPLO surgery was a must, we went ahead and scoped both elbows to remove all of the spurs. She recovered well, but in questioning my vet about 6 months post op about alternatives to Rimadyl, he recommended Deramaxx. That stuff was amazing. The difference in her was almost immediate! My non expert opinion...if one thing you're trying, rest, meds, etc., doesn't seem to be giving them enough relief ask the vet and research alternatives. In addition, I kept her on Synovi G3, which is a glucosamine supplement, and prescription dog food.
Going through all of this, I did not hesitate to have her sedated because I had a wonderful vet who was very familiar with bulldogs. From what I have read and been told by my vet, bulldogs have an incredibly high pain tolerance and should not be treated conservatively once they show signs of pain.

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