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Soft elongated palet

I just bought an ENglish Bulldog Puppy. He is 4 months now and makes horrible gagging noises. He also snores and makes breathing noises like regular Bulldogs. What really worries me is the gagging an the throwing up. He gags as if he had a los of mucus stuck down his throat. I took him to two vets and they tell me he has a soft elongated palete and might need surgery. I have noticed that the vets are not really very knowlegable about Bulldogs health isssues, I wonder if I need to go to a specilist for the surgery. My vet says she can do it. But I do not know if she is experienced enought. None of the vets I took him did any detailed examination inside his mouth, to really determined if he really has elongated palette. The only thing I know is that he makes loud gagging noise, he throws up around two to three times a week and I really need to do something about it. DOes anybody has gone throught this experience before...

Martha Lebolo
Boca Raton ,Florida

palete

NO I have not done any x-rays to rule out respiratory problems. I took him to 2 Vet's the basically reached the elongated soft palette diagnosis without realy looking at his palete. I guess they where following textbook health problems of Bulldogs in determining the problem. I wrote to the breeder to see if the parents had any health issues, or if they had experience any type of issues with him, but of course they do not even answer my messages. He vomited again last night. Sleep well like until 5 a.m but then started gagging like the past three days , and vomited. I feel really bad for him. I am contacting my vet to get x-rays, I tend to think is more an upper respiratory issue than elongated palete. I am just very dissappointed at the Breeders, they seem to nice when I purchased Bear, but now that they have their money they are not interested in helping. They are only afraid I would want to return him.

martha
Boca RAton, FL

palete

NO I have not done any x-rays to rule out respiratory problems. I took him to 2 Vet's the basically reached the elongated soft palette diagnosis without realy looking at his palete. I guess they where following textbook health problems of Bulldogs in determining the problem. I wrote to the breeder to see if the parents had any health issues, or if they had experience any type of issues with him, but of course they do not even answer my messages. He vomited again last night. Sleep well like until 5 a.m but then started gagging like the past three days , and vomited. I feel really bad for him. I am contacting my vet to get x-rays, I tend to think is more an upper respiratory issue than elongated palete. I am just very dissappointed at the Breeders, they seem to nice when I purchased Bear, but now that they have their money they are not interested in helping. They are only afraid I would want to return him.

martha
Boca RAton, FL

Re: palete

Has he had an Xray to rule out any other respiratory problems just to be safe?
The lemon juice is a great home remedy that will help loosen up the mucus.
But if he isnt even able to breathe at night when trying to sleep that alarms me. I would hate for you to not investigate any further and then he aspirate during the night.

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

Re: palete

Has he had an Xray to rule out any other respiratory problems just to be safe?
The lemon juice is a great home remedy that will help loosen up the mucus.
But if he isnt even able to breathe at night when trying to sleep that alarms me. I would hate for you to not investigate any further and then he aspirate during the night.

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

thank you

Thank you your information has been very helpful...I will keep looking until I find the right vet

thank you

Thank you your information has been very helpful...I will keep looking until I find the right vet

it sounds like a elongated palet you are describing

Make sure you take the puppy to a Vet you trust, this is for sure a touchy surgery and you want the best Vet possible doing it.For sure do fluid if you get this done it will help with recovery.


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it sounds like a elongated palet you are describing

Make sure you take the puppy to a Vet you trust, this is for sure a touchy surgery and you want the best Vet possible doing it.For sure do fluid if you get this done it will help with recovery.


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Agree with others..likely elongated soft palate

however WHEN to do the corrective surgery,and WHO to have do it are of prime importance. Ideally you would wait until the dog is about a year old, and his head matures more and he's better able to tolerate anesthesia but in some dogs, with a severe condition, earlier intervention is needed. Vomiting 3 times a week is serious, but the dog isn't reportedlty falling over in a faint from gagging, or vomiting up 1 or more meals a day, so I'd take this time to get a valued second opinion from aa bulldog/savvy vet, one you would likely have perform the actual surgery. Ask what type anesthesia the vet uses, ask whether its laser or scalpel incision, ask whether the nares need "correction or not" and most important...ask how many times this vet has performed this procedure (I'd want to hear at least 100 times but certainly not less than 20). Its not only a delicate procedure, and judgmental as to how much or how little to take off, but keeping the dog under anesthesia the least amount of time possible is a factor, and I personally wouldn't consider asking vet to do a neuter or spay at the same time because of this same consideration. Most vets will keep the dog overnight following surgery to enforce rest/lessen chance of hemorrhaging from hyper-activity but you might also want to know if someone will be at the clinic overnight.

Agree with others..likely elongated soft palate

however WHEN to do the corrective surgery,and WHO to have do it are of prime importance. Ideally you would wait until the dog is about a year old, and his head matures more and he's better able to tolerate anesthesia but in some dogs, with a severe condition, earlier intervention is needed. Vomiting 3 times a week is serious, but the dog isn't reportedlty falling over in a faint from gagging, or vomiting up 1 or more meals a day, so I'd take this time to get a valued second opinion from aa bulldog/savvy vet, one you would likely have perform the actual surgery. Ask what type anesthesia the vet uses, ask whether its laser or scalpel incision, ask whether the nares need "correction or not" and most important...ask how many times this vet has performed this procedure (I'd want to hear at least 100 times but certainly not less than 20). Its not only a delicate procedure, and judgmental as to how much or how little to take off, but keeping the dog under anesthesia the least amount of time possible is a factor, and I personally wouldn't consider asking vet to do a neuter or spay at the same time because of this same consideration. Most vets will keep the dog overnight following surgery to enforce rest/lessen chance of hemorrhaging from hyper-activity but you might also want to know if someone will be at the clinic overnight.

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I forgot to mention....if you are looking for a bulldog vet, go to The Bulldog Club of America website and click on veterinarian list. They are listed by state. perhaps you can locate one close to where you live and take your dog there. I hope this helps.

bulldog vet

I forgot to mention....if you are looking for a bulldog vet, go to The Bulldog Club of America website and click on veterinarian list. They are listed by state. perhaps you can locate one close to where you live and take your dog there. I hope this helps.

Re: palete

A squeez of lemon juice can help cut the phlem in the throat, or some pepsi.

I agree that as the dog grows the condition can change and I would try to wait before rushing into surgery unless the dog is really having distress over this.

Re: palete

A squeez of lemon juice can help cut the phlem in the throat, or some pepsi.

I agree that as the dog grows the condition can change and I would try to wait before rushing into surgery unless the dog is really having distress over this.

palete

No he does not vomit white foam. Is just like if he had mucus stuck on his throat. Last night he could not sleep making that noise, like if he was choking. I live in Boca Raton ,Florida

palete

No he does not vomit white foam. Is just like if he had mucus stuck on his throat. Last night he could not sleep making that noise, like if he was choking. I live in Boca Raton ,Florida

Elongated palate.

Although vomiting after play, eating, and drinking can be an indicator i would not just rush out to do surgery yet unless you feel he is at risk. Does he vomit food, bile, white phlemgy foam?
Where are you located?
For me personally unless the dog has other airway issues that are consticting his breathing i like to wait on the surgery to see how they develop with age. ( narrowed trachea, tight nares,)Some often grow out of it as the head matures. Others get worse and it becomes very obvious they need the surgery. Another thing to consider is if your getting him neutered they can evaluate his palate while he is under. You can not just open the dogs mouth and tell if its a palate problem.
Does your vet do laser?






Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

Elongated palate.

Although vomiting after play, eating, and drinking can be an indicator i would not just rush out to do surgery yet unless you feel he is at risk. Does he vomit food, bile, white phlemgy foam?
Where are you located?
For me personally unless the dog has other airway issues that are consticting his breathing i like to wait on the surgery to see how they develop with age. ( narrowed trachea, tight nares,)Some often grow out of it as the head matures. Others get worse and it becomes very obvious they need the surgery. Another thing to consider is if your getting him neutered they can evaluate his palate while he is under. You can not just open the dogs mouth and tell if its a palate problem.
Does your vet do laser?






Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

palate

This sounds like an elongated palate, but in my opinion 4 months is too young to do the surgery. I would try to hold off until the dog is a little older, unless the dog is really struggling.
Also, I would try to find a bulldog vet in your area. Not sure where you live, but you want a vet that is experienced with bulldogs and has done a lot of these surgeries.
A good bulldog vet will be able to tell you if this is something you need to do right away or if you can wait until the dog is older.

palate

This sounds like an elongated palate, but in my opinion 4 months is too young to do the surgery. I would try to hold off until the dog is a little older, unless the dog is really struggling.
Also, I would try to find a bulldog vet in your area. Not sure where you live, but you want a vet that is experienced with bulldogs and has done a lot of these surgeries.
A good bulldog vet will be able to tell you if this is something you need to do right away or if you can wait until the dog is older.

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