Should a bitch not be bred if she has had demodex or sarcopic mange?


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Should a bitch not be bred if she has had demodex or sarcopic mange?

How does this pass? How serious is it, will future puppies from the bitch have this as well?

Would it be best if possible to avoid having a breeding bitch who had/has mange all together?

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Once the sarcoptic mange is gone it is gone unless she comes in

that has it. This is one reason I will not take my dogs to dog parks or anywhere that6 a stay dog may get in as a lot of strays have sarco0ptic mange.

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Once the sarcoptic mange is gone it is gone unless she comes in

that has it. This is one reason I will not take my dogs to dog parks or anywhere that6 a stay dog may get in as a lot of strays have sarco0ptic mange.

Helen, if she indeed has Sarcoptic mange would it be re-occuring

or a one time thing? She to be arriving here on the weekend and is due for her last 6 treatement this sunday.

1. should i keep her in quaratine away from the rest of my dogs? or is it safe?

2.What do you recommend i do when i get her, bath? etc?

3. Once Sarcoptic mange has been treated will it be re-occuring?


Thank you very much for all your wisdom!

Helen, if she indeed has Sarcoptic mange would it be re-occuring

or a one time thing? She to be arriving here on the weekend and is due for her last 6 treatement this sunday.

1. should i keep her in quaratine away from the rest of my dogs? or is it safe?

2.What do you recommend i do when i get her, bath? etc?

3. Once Sarcoptic mange has been treated will it be re-occuring?


Thank you very much for all your wisdom!

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If it passed between the dogs then it definitely was sarcoptic a

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Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

If it passed between the dogs then it definitely was sarcoptic a

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Thanks so much Helen, n/m

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I would still assume that sarcoptic was the culprit as all dogs

them so if the vet found a small amount of them on her besides the sarcoptic mites that would be normal on any dog. Demodetic mites are on the dogs normally as it is natures way of keeping their hair folicules clean, people even have them in our eyebrows to keep them clean. It is only when the immune system of the dog cannot keep them under control that a problem developes and this is usually prior to a dog bein 1 year. Even then if it can be treated successfully there IMHO is no problem.

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I would still assume that sarcoptic was the culprit as all dogs

them so if the vet found a small amount of them on her besides the sarcoptic mites that would be normal on any dog. Demodetic mites are on the dogs normally as it is natures way of keeping their hair folicules clean, people even have them in our eyebrows to keep them clean. It is only when the immune system of the dog cannot keep them under control that a problem developes and this is usually prior to a dog bein 1 year. Even then if it can be treated successfully there IMHO is no problem.

he said she had demodex but he suspects that

sarcoptic has also played a roll (i'm assuming because it passed between the other dogs). She had it very little he said (the tip of a cigarette bud he said) and she hardly had anything. He said he did treatement for 5 weeks to be better safe than sorry. All is cleared now.

Thank you Helen for answering and sharing your knowledge. it answered many of our questions.

he said she had demodex but he suspects that

sarcoptic has also played a roll (i'm assuming because it passed between the other dogs). She had it very little he said (the tip of a cigarette bud he said) and she hardly had anything. He said he did treatement for 5 weeks to be better safe than sorry. All is cleared now.

Thank you Helen for answering and sharing your knowledge. it answered many of our questions.

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You said she was 3 so I would guess she had sarcoptic mange. If

all clear then she is no more contageous at this point than any other show dog.

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You said she was 3 so I would guess she had sarcoptic mange. If

all clear then she is no more contageous at this point than any other show dog.

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You did not specify whether this was Demodex or sarcoptic she wa

for. If it was sarcoptic then that is contageous at the time but it is certainly not something that would be p-assed to pups as it is similar to scabies in people that is you catch it by getting close to another person that has it and is not being treated. Demodex usually puppy kind at prior to 1 year of age would IMHO not eliminate the bitch from either showing or breeding.

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You did not specify whether this was Demodex or sarcoptic she wa

for. If it was sarcoptic then that is contageous at the time but it is certainly not something that would be p-assed to pups as it is similar to scabies in people that is you catch it by getting close to another person that has it and is not being treated. Demodex usually puppy kind at prior to 1 year of age would IMHO not eliminate the bitch from either showing or breeding.

Mange is not considered 'contagious'

so that should not be your concern, that her presence would jeopardize the health of your other animals. One comment I would make about the learned history of this dog is that not everyone will be open and honest with you about any mange history with their female. I understand that you want the best beginning for your breeding program and on that basis I would have some reservations with this gal but unless you are totally confident of disclosure from another other than your sister or your mother, your are not guaranteed anything. One 5-wk outbreak that responded to Ivermectin, with norecurrances and no other reports of problems regarding immunity such as repeat ear infections, skin problems such as IDCs and certainly I would look at food allergies as those seem to be much more of a QAL (quality of life) issue than pediatric mange.

I'm supplying personal preferences. The choice remains yours, as you know. Best wishes!!!

Mange is not considered 'contagious'

so that should not be your concern, that her presence would jeopardize the health of your other animals. One comment I would make about the learned history of this dog is that not everyone will be open and honest with you about any mange history with their female. I understand that you want the best beginning for your breeding program and on that basis I would have some reservations with this gal but unless you are totally confident of disclosure from another other than your sister or your mother, your are not guaranteed anything. One 5-wk outbreak that responded to Ivermectin, with norecurrances and no other reports of problems regarding immunity such as repeat ear infections, skin problems such as IDCs and certainly I would look at food allergies as those seem to be much more of a QAL (quality of life) issue than pediatric mange.

I'm supplying personal preferences. The choice remains yours, as you know. Best wishes!!!

Thanks Ela1ne, she is soon to be 3 and she just finished

a treatement of 5 weeks with ivomectin.

Our home we have never expierenced any mites before ever. I'm thinking this wouldn't be a wise decision to take one in that has.

This is a show female we have considered taking but just found out that she was on a 5 week program for "mites" which then we researched about it and as starting our first breeding stock would this be a good idea? As we already share a home with other dogs and we wouldn't want to jeopardize them as well.

Thank you very much again for your input.



Thanks Ela1ne, she is soon to be 3 and she just finished

a treatement of 5 weeks with ivomectin.

Our home we have never expierenced any mites before ever. I'm thinking this wouldn't be a wise decision to take one in that has.

This is a show female we have considered taking but just found out that she was on a 5 week program for "mites" which then we researched about it and as starting our first breeding stock would this be a good idea? As we already share a home with other dogs and we wouldn't want to jeopardize them as well.

Thank you very much again for your input.



Varying opinions

but certainly if the dog contracted mange as a youngster and it was treated promptly, dog recovered in less than 3mos and had had no recurrences, I would consider it. If the previous conditions were not met, then I would presume this dog has a weakened immune system and other immune-mediated problems will surface as she ages...its unfair and unwise to breed this into another generation of dogs. Mange itself is an outbreak of the mites that all dogs live with, but its usually in small numbers and the dog can deal with it. When the immunity of the dog is low, as it can understandably be when the dog is in a rapid-growth phase perhaps at the same time she is teething, etc. the mites can 'take hold' in the follicles of the skin and hair and overwhelm the dog for a time. Medications can kill off the mites but the dog must still recover sufficiently to regrow healthy hair and remain healthy and this is based on a strong immune system. We boost that many times with supplements but they can only do so much...the dog must basically be "sound".

Varying opinions

but certainly if the dog contracted mange as a youngster and it was treated promptly, dog recovered in less than 3mos and had had no recurrences, I would consider it. If the previous conditions were not met, then I would presume this dog has a weakened immune system and other immune-mediated problems will surface as she ages...its unfair and unwise to breed this into another generation of dogs. Mange itself is an outbreak of the mites that all dogs live with, but its usually in small numbers and the dog can deal with it. When the immunity of the dog is low, as it can understandably be when the dog is in a rapid-growth phase perhaps at the same time she is teething, etc. the mites can 'take hold' in the follicles of the skin and hair and overwhelm the dog for a time. Medications can kill off the mites but the dog must still recover sufficiently to regrow healthy hair and remain healthy and this is based on a strong immune system. We boost that many times with supplements but they can only do so much...the dog must basically be "sound".

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