Saccula/Voice Box Removal


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Saccula/Voice Box Removal

Hello everyone, wanted to get some info from anyone who may have knowledge about Elongated Palates or the procedures. At 8 months Oscar had his cut and sacculas removed. Now after a year he has started his very heavy breathing and vomiting of white foam again. After the Dr. put him under to look again he called me saying that the airway was very tight and the sacculas were out again and that his voice box was very inflamed.

He wanted to remove the sacculas, stitch the opening, and remove his voice box due to the sacculas being inflamed and the voice box blocking the airway as well. My question is, does this sound like the right course of action to have been done.

Thanks,
Brian and Oscar

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Re: Wait.

The Dr. did explain what you have informed of, he did say that the Palate looks great and that it is the sacculas that have filled/everted and causing the swelling, irritation of the voice box thus causing the blockage of Oscar's airway. He did state at this point this is the best option to open his airway and prevent the future blockage. He informed me that he has very good nostrils, better than most that he has seen in Bulldogs.

Thank you very much for the advice and information. It helps.

Thanks again,
Brian

bdissharp's picture

Re: Wait.

The Dr. did explain what you have informed of, he did say that the Palate looks great and that it is the sacculas that have filled/everted and causing the swelling, irritation of the voice box thus causing the blockage of Oscar's airway. He did state at this point this is the best option to open his airway and prevent the future blockage. He informed me that he has very good nostrils, better than most that he has seen in Bulldogs.

Thank you very much for the advice and information. It helps.

Thanks again,
Brian

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Re: my worry would be doing 2 surgeries in one area

Dr. said that his Palate looked great and was not the issue this time. It was the sacculas again, where they had filled up, irritated the voice box, swelled the voice box and is part of the problem. His suggestion was to remove both while in there so as to not have to put him under anesthesia again.

Brian

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Re: my worry would be doing 2 surgeries in one area

Dr. said that his Palate looked great and was not the issue this time. It was the sacculas again, where they had filled up, irritated the voice box, swelled the voice box and is part of the problem. His suggestion was to remove both while in there so as to not have to put him under anesthesia again.

Brian

Wait.

Please get a second opinion. I don't doubt that the dog is having breathing issues (again...or still?) but the everted saccules (similar to tonsils in humans but not quite the same) are folds at the sides of the throat that get enlarged/stretched from extended heavy breathing, and their removal is not always required in a palate trim surgery. I'm just concerned about whether this vet is not sure why the dog is having difficulties; you have not stated any info regarding stenotic or "undersized" trachea/windpipe and we all know that this condition cannot be surgically corrected, so I'm just not sure with the limited info we're getting whether this vet is intent on cutting everything he can reach in hopes (or true expectation) of opening up the airway for your bulldog. Basically I'm asking whether a 'slash and burn' approach is what is needed..or am I misinterpreting all this? Another vet, very familiar with this breed, at another practice, would be my suggestion. Also, was there anything done to his nares...were they widened or was that even suggested? Have you limited this dog's activities to see if that makes a difference in his vomiting of foam? Have you considered whether his vomiting might be related to some acid-reflux problem? I'd have a whole list of questions I would like answered before undergoing another serious procedure like this. happy.gif

Wait.

Please get a second opinion. I don't doubt that the dog is having breathing issues (again...or still?) but the everted saccules (similar to tonsils in humans but not quite the same) are folds at the sides of the throat that get enlarged/stretched from extended heavy breathing, and their removal is not always required in a palate trim surgery. I'm just concerned about whether this vet is not sure why the dog is having difficulties; you have not stated any info regarding stenotic or "undersized" trachea/windpipe and we all know that this condition cannot be surgically corrected, so I'm just not sure with the limited info we're getting whether this vet is intent on cutting everything he can reach in hopes (or true expectation) of opening up the airway for your bulldog. Basically I'm asking whether a 'slash and burn' approach is what is needed..or am I misinterpreting all this? Another vet, very familiar with this breed, at another practice, would be my suggestion. Also, was there anything done to his nares...were they widened or was that even suggested? Have you limited this dog's activities to see if that makes a difference in his vomiting of foam? Have you considered whether his vomiting might be related to some acid-reflux problem? I'd have a whole list of questions I would like answered before undergoing another serious procedure like this. happy.gif

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my worry would be doing 2 surgeries in one area

that the swelling from surgery could cause major problems.

I would remove the saccuals and see how things go. It should open up things, also his palate might need to be trimmed again

Vicky,
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ickytazz's picture

my worry would be doing 2 surgeries in one area

that the swelling from surgery could cause major problems.

I would remove the saccuals and see how things go. It should open up things, also his palate might need to be trimmed again

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly


http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

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