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You might want to try contacting the Chicago English Bulldog Rescue. You can contact Molly or Greg. I know they rescued a little bully girl that had hydrocephalus. They have adopted her out and I am pretty sure she is doing really well. I have seen her at past bulldog meet-ups. They can probably give you advice and I would think they could get you in touch with the family that adopted Moxie. I will check my meet-up group and see if I can get in touch with them as well and have them contact you. I know she was under a year old when they adopted her, I think about 6 months if I remember right. You can see her at the CEBR website, www.ebullymatch.com and if you look under love connections, her name is Moxie. Best of luck to you.

You might want to try contacting the Chicago English Bulldog Rescue. You can contact Molly or Greg. I know they rescued a little bully girl that had hydrocephalus. They have adopted her out and I am pretty sure she is doing really well. I have seen her at past bulldog meet-ups. They can probably give you advice and I would think they could get you in touch with the family that adopted Moxie. I will check my meet-up group and see if I can get in touch with them as well and have them contact you. I know she was under a year old when they adopted her, I think about 6 months if I remember right. You can see her at the CEBR website, www.ebullymatch.com and if you look under love connections, her name is Moxie. Best of luck to you.

and does not mean that your dog can not be bred. this is the website where i believe she has pulled her info from, one of my favs. Its a great site and offers up alot of info. But it says WHEN THE PROBLEMS CONGENITAL: so until you know if this is hydro or not an assumption can not be made. And note that congenital means present at birth and can be related to environment in utero or external, etc. Congenital defects at birth may or may not be inherited. Hydro is one that i would not worry too much about. Now if an entire litter had hydro then i would start to question and investigate my bitch and puppies. But note that mom could have been given certain drugs during pregnancy, fed poorly etc..its like spina bifida puppies. There can be one in a litter but doesnt always mean that the others will pass on this defect. Not enough reserach has been done to prove and fine the genetic link yet.

http://www.marvistavet.net/html/hydrocephalus.html

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

and does not mean that your dog can not be bred. this is the website where i believe she has pulled her info from, one of my favs. Its a great site and offers up alot of info. But it says WHEN THE PROBLEMS CONGENITAL: so until you know if this is hydro or not an assumption can not be made. And note that congenital means present at birth and can be related to environment in utero or external, etc. Congenital defects at birth may or may not be inherited. Hydro is one that i would not worry too much about. Now if an entire litter had hydro then i would start to question and investigate my bitch and puppies. But note that mom could have been given certain drugs during pregnancy, fed poorly etc..its like spina bifida puppies. There can be one in a litter but doesnt always mean that the others will pass on this defect. Not enough reserach has been done to prove and fine the genetic link yet.

http://www.marvistavet.net/html/hydrocephalus.html

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

With hydrocephalus this guy would likely have a soft spot where his fontanel has not closed. This is due to the increased cerebrospinal fluid that accumulates in the ventricles. The eyes being far apart are not enough of an indicator IMO. The eyes will also have that downward gaze or even outward gaze. More of the white shows in the corners and bottom of eyes.
Seizures are often a given when its severe. These guys usally die at a very young age. For him to be 8 weeks is not so shabby.

As for treatment. The vet may have not discussed this with you because most people dont save them. The reason being that this is another midlline affilated problem and often hydrocehpalus is just the beginning of a multitude of problems like spina bifida, seizure disorders, etc.

A shunt can be placed that allows drainge but is a risky surgery. In the meantime vets will often prescribe medications that pull the fluid out. A diuretic like Lasix is most common but must be used with extreme caution. In true hydro a pup has adjusted his electrolyle balance because of this excess. When a diuretic is used to pull this fluid out the dog can go into shock and dehydration causing him to die. The deydration comes on fast and in a matter of minutes. Prednisone is the more common drug that my vet starts with. This is a steroid and another medication that should be used with caution because one of the side effects are excessive urination. Pred helps reduce the swelling in the brain. Then he moves to very low does diuretics.
I hope all this helps, please email me if you wish.
I will be rooting for this little guy and hoping it isnt hydro and if very minor!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

With hydrocephalus this guy would likely have a soft spot where his fontanel has not closed. This is due to the increased cerebrospinal fluid that accumulates in the ventricles. The eyes being far apart are not enough of an indicator IMO. The eyes will also have that downward gaze or even outward gaze. More of the white shows in the corners and bottom of eyes.
Seizures are often a given when its severe. These guys usally die at a very young age. For him to be 8 weeks is not so shabby.

As for treatment. The vet may have not discussed this with you because most people dont save them. The reason being that this is another midlline affilated problem and often hydrocehpalus is just the beginning of a multitude of problems like spina bifida, seizure disorders, etc.

A shunt can be placed that allows drainge but is a risky surgery. In the meantime vets will often prescribe medications that pull the fluid out. A diuretic like Lasix is most common but must be used with extreme caution. In true hydro a pup has adjusted his electrolyle balance because of this excess. When a diuretic is used to pull this fluid out the dog can go into shock and dehydration causing him to die. The deydration comes on fast and in a matter of minutes. Prednisone is the more common drug that my vet starts with. This is a steroid and another medication that should be used with caution because one of the side effects are excessive urination. Pred helps reduce the swelling in the brain. Then he moves to very low does diuretics.
I hope all this helps, please email me if you wish.
I will be rooting for this little guy and hoping it isnt hydro and if very minor!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

With hydrocephalus this guy would likely have a soft spot where his fontanel has not closed. This is due to the increased cerebrospinal fluid that accumulates in the ventricles. The eyes being far apart are not enough of an indicator IMO. The eyes will also have that downward gaze or even outward gaze. More of the white shows in the corners and bottom of eyes.
Seizures are often a given when its severe. These guys usally die at a very young age. For him to be 8 weeks is not so shabby.

As for treatment. The vet may have not discussed this with you because most people dont save them. The reason being that this is another midlline affilated problem and often hydrocehpalus is just the beginning of a multitude of problems like spina bifida, seizure disorders, etc.

A shunt can be placed that allows drainge but is a risky surgery. In the meantime vets will often prescribe medications that pull the fluid out. A diuretic like Lasix is most common but must be used with extreme caution. In true hydro a pup has adjusted his electrolyle balance because of this excess. When a diuretic is used to pull this fluid out the dog can go into shock and dehydration causing him to die. The deydration comes on fast and in a matter of minutes. Prednisone is the more common drug that my vet starts with. This is a steroid and another medication that should be used with caution because one of the side effects are excessive urination. Pred helps reduce the swelling in the brain. Then he moves to very low does diuretics.
I hope all this helps, please email me if you wish.
I will be rooting for this little guy and hoping it isnt hydro and if very minor!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

With hydrocephalus this guy would likely have a soft spot where his fontanel has not closed. This is due to the increased cerebrospinal fluid that accumulates in the ventricles. The eyes being far apart are not enough of an indicator IMO. The eyes will also have that downward gaze or even outward gaze. More of the white shows in the corners and bottom of eyes.
Seizures are often a given when its severe. These guys usally die at a very young age. For him to be 8 weeks is not so shabby.

As for treatment. The vet may have not discussed this with you because most people dont save them. The reason being that this is another midlline affilated problem and often hydrocehpalus is just the beginning of a multitude of problems like spina bifida, seizure disorders, etc.

A shunt can be placed that allows drainge but is a risky surgery. In the meantime vets will often prescribe medications that pull the fluid out. A diuretic like Lasix is most common but must be used with extreme caution. In true hydro a pup has adjusted his electrolyle balance because of this excess. When a diuretic is used to pull this fluid out the dog can go into shock and dehydration causing him to die. The deydration comes on fast and in a matter of minutes. Prednisone is the more common drug that my vet starts with. This is a steroid and another medication that should be used with caution because one of the side effects are excessive urination. Pred helps reduce the swelling in the brain. Then he moves to very low does diuretics.
I hope all this helps, please email me if you wish.
I will be rooting for this little guy and hoping it isnt hydro and if very minor!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

That I'm not sure about the whole litter, but it is congenital. So, Iwouldn't breed the sister.

That I'm not sure about the whole litter, but it is congenital. So, Iwouldn't breed the sister.

I guess i am wishful thinking. I want to have the first puppy to live a nirmal life with this condition.Im gonna love him every day andgive him the best life possible.

Since he has this condition, this means the whole litter is capsble of producing pups with hydro?

I guess i am wishful thinking. I want to have the first puppy to live a nirmal life with this condition.Im gonna love him every day andgive him the best life possible.

Since he has this condition, this means the whole litter is capsble of producing pups with hydro?

Marcello (with Big Red) posts. He lost his Conan to hydrocephalus. Conan was just over a year old, I believe. The vet offered a shunt placement (it shunts the excess cerebrospinal fluid to another area of the body - either a blood vessel, or, more commonly, the peritoneal cavity where the fluid is absorbed), but poor Conan was pretty advanced. There is no guarantee that the shunts won't clog or get infected, either.
But, as the others say, the degree of severity comes into play. Good luck with your pup. It's amazing how quickly they entwine themselves into our lives.

Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball/Ralph

Marcello (with Big Red) posts. He lost his Conan to hydrocephalus. Conan was just over a year old, I believe. The vet offered a shunt placement (it shunts the excess cerebrospinal fluid to another area of the body - either a blood vessel, or, more commonly, the peritoneal cavity where the fluid is absorbed), but poor Conan was pretty advanced. There is no guarantee that the shunts won't clog or get infected, either.
But, as the others say, the degree of severity comes into play. Good luck with your pup. It's amazing how quickly they entwine themselves into our lives.

Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball/Ralph

Barb, from waht I know, there is definitely a "look" to these puppies. The head is dome shaped, with a soft spot.  Their eye are what they call in "sun set" the iris points downward and there is considerable white showing in the corner. They are slower to learn potty training, they vomit.  Sometime they have a runny nose, like a child with a cold.  There are different levels of severity however.  Some do live to young adulthood, other just a few months.  The only way to correct diagnose this is to have an MRI done.  They can treat with steroids, and lasix, but you haveto be careful of dehydration, which lead to electrolyte imbalance.  They have also treated with  the antacid drug omeprazole, which decreases cerebrospinal fuild production by about 26%.  This is also a congenital problem,k so therefore your little girl should nhever be bred.  This could have also happened through an injury.  Hope this information helps.

Barb, from waht I know, there is definitely a "look" to these puppies. The head is dome shaped, with a soft spot.  Their eye are what they call in "sun set" the iris points downward and there is considerable white showing in the corner. They are slower to learn potty training, they vomit.  Sometime they have a runny nose, like a child with a cold.  There are different levels of severity however.  Some do live to young adulthood, other just a few months.  The only way to correct diagnose this is to have an MRI done.  They can treat with steroids, and lasix, but you haveto be careful of dehydration, which lead to electrolyte imbalance.  They have also treated with  the antacid drug omeprazole, which decreases cerebrospinal fuild production by about 26%.  This is also a congenital problem,k so therefore your little girl should nhever be bred.  This could have also happened through an injury.  Hope this information helps.

I would call your vet and ask what they suggest needs to be done. If he is acting like a normal pup, he may not have a severe case and therefore, treatment can help him. I can't remember what the treatment is, maybe steriods, but ask your vet.

Lynn King CPDT

I would call your vet and ask what they suggest needs to be done. If he is acting like a normal pup, he may not have a severe case and therefore, treatment can help him. I can't remember what the treatment is, maybe steriods, but ask your vet.

Lynn King CPDT

My vet did not do an ultrasound. The breeder said that her vet said he may have a touch of hydrocephalus and then my vet said the same thing. I was not impredded at all with my vet because she gave no other options and also no ideas on how to treat this condition. She focused most of her time on Ellie Mae, his sister.
Other than looking at him and knowing he is different, his actions are of a very healthy, active, puppy.

I want to say (better late than never) that I am new to this forum and thank you all for sharring your knowledge and opinions.

Barb

My vet did not do an ultrasound. The breeder said that her vet said he may have a touch of hydrocephalus and then my vet said the same thing. I was not impredded at all with my vet because she gave no other options and also no ideas on how to treat this condition. She focused most of her time on Ellie Mae, his sister.
Other than looking at him and knowing he is different, his actions are of a very healthy, active, puppy.

I want to say (better late than never) that I am new to this forum and thank you all for sharring your knowledge and opinions.

Barb

or an MRI. Either one is needed for a true diagnosis/prognosis. Is your pup playing/active/eating well/eyes tracking normally/coordinated? If so, I would further discuss with your vet his diagnosis and/or treatment plan.

Lynn King CPDT

or an MRI. Either one is needed for a true diagnosis/prognosis. Is your pup playing/active/eating well/eyes tracking normally/coordinated? If so, I would further discuss with your vet his diagnosis and/or treatment plan.

Lynn King CPDT

i often think of this little guy. Great example to share.

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

i often think of this little guy. Great example to share.

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

we also see dwarfism in Bulldogs which can look similar to hydrocephalus. Same distant gaze and far set eyes. Bigger head than body...I will be praying for this little guy. I have high hopes.

Where do you live? An did you get my emails?


Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

we also see dwarfism in Bulldogs which can look similar to hydrocephalus. Same distant gaze and far set eyes. Bigger head than body...I will be praying for this little guy. I have high hopes.

Where do you live? An did you get my emails?


Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma

grows and is no guarantee :O(

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however most cases are caused by an underlying infection in the dam or the puppy as it develops.. can also be caused from injury before or after birth... few other things also but less common.

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It looks like you took a pic of my little max. Can I ask you how long yours lived?

It looks like you took a pic of my little max. Can I ask you how long yours lived?

You have given me so much hope, I cant thank you enough. I have had these two puppies about 10 days and they are both engraved into my heart already. I have been watching the little boy and have looked for these signs such as the soft spot and there is no soft spot. His eyes are far apart but not the "setting sun" look. He does have a domed head but even that is shaping up with the weight he is putting on.He eats with gusto and plays with even more gusto. I am giving him omeprazole every day.

I am going to have a friend of mine show me how to post pics and you can see for yourself what he looks like and also his sister. He is about 1/3 the size of him.

Thanks again for the info. I have alot to learn about bully's and this is a great place to start. It is so nice to see that everyone brings something to this forum and is willing to share experiences. I hope as time goes by that I too can help someone here.

You have given me so much hope, I cant thank you enough. I have had these two puppies about 10 days and they are both engraved into my heart already. I have been watching the little boy and have looked for these signs such as the soft spot and there is no soft spot. His eyes are far apart but not the "setting sun" look. He does have a domed head but even that is shaping up with the weight he is putting on.He eats with gusto and plays with even more gusto. I am giving him omeprazole every day.

I am going to have a friend of mine show me how to post pics and you can see for yourself what he looks like and also his sister. He is about 1/3 the size of him.

Thanks again for the info. I have alot to learn about bully's and this is a great place to start. It is so nice to see that everyone brings something to this forum and is willing to share experiences. I hope as time goes by that I too can help someone here.

I've seen 2 Bulldog pups with this condition and both had a 'Chihuahua' look to their heads; very domed and they were significantly smaller/thinner than their littermates. In both cases the breeders had the pups put down by a few weeks of age. My opinion is that the hydrocephalus is just the most noticeable of a laundry list of health issues.
As to any surgery to help the pup, should he survive to an age where he can have a shunt put in - my experience isn't with dogs here but with my Mother.
She had a low pressure version of this condition and had a shunt put in to drain away excess fluid from around her brain to empty into her stomach. We really didn't see any improvement in her symptoms (balance, motor coordination, cognitive abilities, etc.) but there was possibly a slow down in the progression of her symptoms.
Good luck with your pup, but I think you need to prepare yourself for the early loss of him.

I've seen 2 Bulldog pups with this condition and both had a 'Chihuahua' look to their heads; very domed and they were significantly smaller/thinner than their littermates. In both cases the breeders had the pups put down by a few weeks of age. My opinion is that the hydrocephalus is just the most noticeable of a laundry list of health issues.
As to any surgery to help the pup, should he survive to an age where he can have a shunt put in - my experience isn't with dogs here but with my Mother.
She had a low pressure version of this condition and had a shunt put in to drain away excess fluid from around her brain to empty into her stomach. We really didn't see any improvement in her symptoms (balance, motor coordination, cognitive abilities, etc.) but there was possibly a slow down in the progression of her symptoms.
Good luck with your pup, but I think you need to prepare yourself for the early loss of him.

can you post a picture?

from my understanding and what i have seen is that as the pup grows the shunt will either grow or not. If the shunt grows and opens the pup will live a normal life.

Most puppies dont live to 8 weeks with this, how is the pup how is the behavior?

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

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can you post a picture?

from my understanding and what i have seen is that as the pup grows the shunt will either grow or not. If the shunt grows and opens the pup will live a normal life.

Most puppies dont live to 8 weeks with this, how is the pup how is the behavior?

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

Thank you for responding...maximus is a great puppy. He eats and plays and loves affection. He runs and looks happy and he doesnt seem to be in any pain. He weighs 2 lbs. (his sister, Ellie Mae, weighs 8 lbs). Im not sure yet how to post a pic but I will learn. He is the cutest little creature I have ever seen. He has several of the features I have read about in hydrosephlic puppies. He has a domed head, wide set eyes and very tiny but has a huge spirit. I am trying to treat him like he is living rather than dying. Its hard though to think he may have just a few months. I have to keep him separated from his sister because of the size difference. I am afraid she will hurt him accidently. I was wondering if there is any home remedies that may help him.

Thank you for responding...maximus is a great puppy. He eats and plays and loves affection. He runs and looks happy and he doesnt seem to be in any pain. He weighs 2 lbs. (his sister, Ellie Mae, weighs 8 lbs). Im not sure yet how to post a pic but I will learn. He is the cutest little creature I have ever seen. He has several of the features I have read about in hydrosephlic puppies. He has a domed head, wide set eyes and very tiny but has a huge spirit. I am trying to treat him like he is living rather than dying. Its hard though to think he may have just a few months. I have to keep him separated from his sister because of the size difference. I am afraid she will hurt him accidently. I was wondering if there is any home remedies that may help him.