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hip displacia

hi i have a 8 month old bulldog and he had to have a triple pelvic ostiomety my vet sent us to the nearest vet collage and he was operated on and he now has nerve damage from the operation. He knuckles over on his paw.When he first came out of the operation he drug his back leg and the doctor said that he should be better on it in a couple of days but he didn't improve much.By time I took him back for his check up he still knuckling over on paw .The x-ray showed that the bones was healing well but he still can't walk right.The doctor said that he may need an orthotic so took him and got it for him but still isn't placing foot in right postion and he has lost alot of muscle mass and strenght I am doing physo on him at home and he will also be startting physo with pro.I guess what I would like to know if any one else out there has had this problem it cost 600.00 for x-rays before operation and 2700.00 for operation and 85.00 for x-ray for check-up and 800.00 for orthotic and not sure how much physo will cost or for how long he will need it all I know is that I have ran out of money and is there any thing that can be done to help out.Ihad a dog that could walk before operation now I have one that can't walk.Should the doctor that did operation help out with other cost I am incurring? any help or suggustion would be great
Thanks

I recommend saying NO to steroids.

They are very beneficial for short-term use where there is swelling that needs immediate relief...and for some serious diseases where the dog is expected to have a shortened lifespan anyway...but longterm use of steroids will shorten the dog's life without-a-doubt, and can bring on Cushings Disease, for one. When I refer to shortterm use, I'm talking 1 or 2 weeks, maybe a bit longer, but certainly not for months! When something like this is suggested, I ask "what specifically will this medication do for him, and what is the risk to him if he takes this?" If the answer is, "well we really don't know what benefit it will bring" then I think I wouldn't experiment with a drug like steroids....its your choice, of course. happy.gif

I recommend saying NO to steroids.

They are very beneficial for short-term use where there is swelling that needs immediate relief...and for some serious diseases where the dog is expected to have a shortened lifespan anyway...but longterm use of steroids will shorten the dog's life without-a-doubt, and can bring on Cushings Disease, for one. When I refer to shortterm use, I'm talking 1 or 2 weeks, maybe a bit longer, but certainly not for months! When something like this is suggested, I ask "what specifically will this medication do for him, and what is the risk to him if he takes this?" If the answer is, "well we really don't know what benefit it will bring" then I think I wouldn't experiment with a drug like steroids....its your choice, of course. happy.gif

bones

They told me that it was better to do it when he was young cause his bones are still growing and that they would heal better his hip bone was right out of the hip socket.

bones

They told me that it was better to do it when he was young cause his bones are still growing and that they would heal better his hip bone was right out of the hip socket.

winston

We just came back from Halifax where winston seen the physo they have changed up some of his excrises and we had to take him back to get some alterations done on his leg brace so that he is placing it under himself more.While we was at pyso one of thier vets came in to look at winston and
suggestted that we put him on steriods but don't think I am going to do that what do you think?going to try physo out first.The never damage that winston has from this operation is very rare this is the first time she has seem this happen from t.p.o. opertion(lucky us...hum...NOT!)winston is already neutered and it is hard to get to speak to any one else with these complications because to is so rare.The other operation wont happen only as a last resort and only when I know all or any complication thank you very much for your input

winston

We just came back from Halifax where winston seen the physo they have changed up some of his excrises and we had to take him back to get some alterations done on his leg brace so that he is placing it under himself more.While we was at pyso one of thier vets came in to look at winston and
suggestted that we put him on steriods but don't think I am going to do that what do you think?going to try physo out first.The never damage that winston has from this operation is very rare this is the first time she has seem this happen from t.p.o. opertion(lucky us...hum...NOT!)winston is already neutered and it is hard to get to speak to any one else with these complications because to is so rare.The other operation wont happen only as a last resort and only when I know all or any complication thank you very much for your input

LDeLeo's picture

how sad that some vets take advantage

of bulldog owners, as they see $$$$$$$ coming through the door.  I am sorry that you are going through this.  Find a vet experienced with the breed, even if it means driving  an hour or two.

LDeLeo's picture

how sad that some vets take advantage

of bulldog owners, as they see $$$$$$$ coming through the door.  I am sorry that you are going through this.  Find a vet experienced with the breed, even if it means driving  an hour or two.

Since he's doing physiotherapy now, and you have a

prosthesis to keep him from rubbing that drooping paw raw, I expect you will continue with the current treatment program to see how much progress can be reached in a few months time. The "corrective surgery" the vet is referring to, drawing up the cords so that the paw is permanently frozen in a 'landing position'...is that what he's suggesting...well I'd want to have a clear understanding of what this procedure is, including the success rate of dogs having it done (as for a referral to a dog owner who has had this done and then speak with that person to see if they are satisfied, how long healing took, any other complications, etc.) and then decide. Remember that another surgery means another anesthesia which is always something we do cautiously with this breed. If he's to have another surgery, you may want to neuter at the same time (if he's not already neutered) since there can be some hormone-driven behaviors starting at about one year old that you may want to avoid too. happy.gif Best wishes to the little guy.

Since he's doing physiotherapy now, and you have a

prosthesis to keep him from rubbing that drooping paw raw, I expect you will continue with the current treatment program to see how much progress can be reached in a few months time. The "corrective surgery" the vet is referring to, drawing up the cords so that the paw is permanently frozen in a 'landing position'...is that what he's suggesting...well I'd want to have a clear understanding of what this procedure is, including the success rate of dogs having it done (as for a referral to a dog owner who has had this done and then speak with that person to see if they are satisfied, how long healing took, any other complications, etc.) and then decide. Remember that another surgery means another anesthesia which is always something we do cautiously with this breed. If he's to have another surgery, you may want to neuter at the same time (if he's not already neutered) since there can be some hormone-driven behaviors starting at about one year old that you may want to avoid too. happy.gif Best wishes to the little guy.

Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

I agree, that poor baby , the bones are not fully developed even

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Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

I agree, that poor baby , the bones are not fully developed even

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Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

IMHO, he should never have been operated on at this age, if need

waited until he was at least 18 mo. The vet just saw $ signs IMHO.

Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

IMHO, he should never have been operated on at this age, if need

waited until he was at least 18 mo. The vet just saw $ signs IMHO.

Re: I agree, that poor baby , the bones are not fully developed

the doctor said that his bones have healed well and hip bone is up where it should be but now there is this nerve trouble

Re: I agree, that poor baby , the bones are not fully developed

the doctor said that his bones have healed well and hip bone is up where it should be but now there is this nerve trouble

Re: I agree totally....

well from now on I am sure to ask for help from people with bullies first!!!!

Re: I agree totally....

well from now on I am sure to ask for help from people with bullies first!!!!

thanks

well the reason that i first took winston there was I startted hearing popping in his hips when he moved so when they did x-rays his right hip bone isn't realy in the socket so the dr.from vet collage saidthat he would be a good candit for t.p.o. and that would lesson the pain that he would have from arthist when he got older.He didn't tell me any thing about thr complacations that could happen.So thinking that I was doing the best thing for him we went ahaed and got the operation done.winston could walk fine before this and we did go for walks everyday but now we can't. we just took in down to his physo lady and his orthitic isn't fitting him right so we had to go to place and the man is adjusting it she wants us just to work on paw area now and put warm compresses to the paw before physo,she also want to take him down there for a week with her cause she is about an hour away from us.I wish that I had this forum to go to before all this happened but I just thought that the doctors knew best (boy do I know different now)oh and the vet from the collage also said that if it didn't come back that they could operate and draw the cords up in the paw so he dosen't knuckle over on it??? I am just beside my self my all this mess and again I thank all of you for yout input

thanks

well the reason that i first took winston there was I startted hearing popping in his hips when he moved so when they did x-rays his right hip bone isn't realy in the socket so the dr.from vet collage saidthat he would be a good candit for t.p.o. and that would lesson the pain that he would have from arthist when he got older.He didn't tell me any thing about thr complacations that could happen.So thinking that I was doing the best thing for him we went ahaed and got the operation done.winston could walk fine before this and we did go for walks everyday but now we can't. we just took in down to his physo lady and his orthitic isn't fitting him right so we had to go to place and the man is adjusting it she wants us just to work on paw area now and put warm compresses to the paw before physo,she also want to take him down there for a week with her cause she is about an hour away from us.I wish that I had this forum to go to before all this happened but I just thought that the doctors knew best (boy do I know different now)oh and the vet from the collage also said that if it didn't come back that they could operate and draw the cords up in the paw so he dosen't knuckle over on it??? I am just beside my self my all this mess and again I thank all of you for yout input

I agree totally....

I'm so sorry that this has happened to your dog and you.

Bulldogs are notorious for having hip displasia. Most are not bothered by it.

This vet doesn't know bulldogs, saw $$$ signs & took you for a ride.

Sue

I agree totally....

I'm so sorry that this has happened to your dog and you.

Bulldogs are notorious for having hip displasia. Most are not bothered by it.

This vet doesn't know bulldogs, saw $$$ signs & took you for a ride.

Sue

Jacinda and the bullies's picture

I agree with Elaine

I have a 4 year old with hip dysplasia who was diagnosed at age 2. Luckily, my Vet did not recomend surgery and we have never considered it as a possibility.

Morgan as limping badly when diagnosed and we are treating her with monthly injections of Adequan. Today, two years later, she is doing great. No limping, no pain meds and she has a great quality of life.

I am so sorry you and your dog are going through this.

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Jacinda and the bullies's picture

I agree with Elaine

I have a 4 year old with hip dysplasia who was diagnosed at age 2. Luckily, my Vet did not recomend surgery and we have never considered it as a possibility.

Morgan as limping badly when diagnosed and we are treating her with monthly injections of Adequan. Today, two years later, she is doing great. No limping, no pain meds and she has a great quality of life.

I am so sorry you and your dog are going through this.

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You may not want my opinion

but too often this breed is "misdiagnosed" as needing corrective surgery for hip dysplasia when its the "normal walk" for a bulldog, or even if the hips aren't excellent (and few are!) the dog develops rear end muscles thru normal walking and other exercising to compensate for weak hip joints...and we don't do the type of surgery you have had done. Usually the high cost is enough to deter this from consideration, but a knowledgable bulldog owner/group would also advise you against having the surgery if your dog is able to stand and walk. Of course we're talking "history" here since you have already had the surgery done...and its a very extensive as well as expensive surgery. I'm sure somewhere in the preparation for this you were advised that a whole lot of negative things could happen. Unfortunately for your dog (and you) this surgery was NOT successful. The dog is indeed crippled from nerve damage and that can't be repaired. You can try to get some movement improvement with exercise but I wouldn't expect much improvement...this dog is permanently crippled IMHO. I am NOT a vet. You should get him examined by another veterinarian not affiliated with either of the offices you have dealt with previously. I would certainly make a Huge Stink about the damage resulting from the surgery and at minimum, require the vet to pay for some type of physical rehabilitation. The vets carry insurance for "mal-practice"...and I say this has been mal-practice if indeed the dog was walking before surgery, and not walking now. You should also look at special dog strollers that you can put him in to take him for walks outside (several owners here have them for their old or infirm dogs and you can ask for recommendations for certain brands) and I would put a claim in for reimbursement for this equipment with your claim against the surgeon for mal-practice. It will take lots of letters and stubbornness on your part to seek some type of restitution but this is my suggestion. I'm so sorry you are in this situation...and I wish you had written to us sooner. I personally would only consider this type of hip surgery if my dog were hit-by-car and crippled by that...and nothing short of that!

You may not want my opinion

but too often this breed is "misdiagnosed" as needing corrective surgery for hip dysplasia when its the "normal walk" for a bulldog, or even if the hips aren't excellent (and few are!) the dog develops rear end muscles thru normal walking and other exercising to compensate for weak hip joints...and we don't do the type of surgery you have had done. Usually the high cost is enough to deter this from consideration, but a knowledgable bulldog owner/group would also advise you against having the surgery if your dog is able to stand and walk. Of course we're talking "history" here since you have already had the surgery done...and its a very extensive as well as expensive surgery. I'm sure somewhere in the preparation for this you were advised that a whole lot of negative things could happen. Unfortunately for your dog (and you) this surgery was NOT successful. The dog is indeed crippled from nerve damage and that can't be repaired. You can try to get some movement improvement with exercise but I wouldn't expect much improvement...this dog is permanently crippled IMHO. I am NOT a vet. You should get him examined by another veterinarian not affiliated with either of the offices you have dealt with previously. I would certainly make a Huge Stink about the damage resulting from the surgery and at minimum, require the vet to pay for some type of physical rehabilitation. The vets carry insurance for "mal-practice"...and I say this has been mal-practice if indeed the dog was walking before surgery, and not walking now. You should also look at special dog strollers that you can put him in to take him for walks outside (several owners here have them for their old or infirm dogs and you can ask for recommendations for certain brands) and I would put a claim in for reimbursement for this equipment with your claim against the surgeon for mal-practice. It will take lots of letters and stubbornness on your part to seek some type of restitution but this is my suggestion. I'm so sorry you are in this situation...and I wish you had written to us sooner. I personally would only consider this type of hip surgery if my dog were hit-by-car and crippled by that...and nothing short of that!

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