The cone can come off if you are sitting right there with the dog. Cone on in the crate or if you can't be right there. One little carpet surf episode can rip out stitches and that means back to surgery. You don't want that.

The cone can come off if you are sitting right there with the dog. Cone on in the crate or if you can't be right there. One little carpet surf episode can rip out stitches and that means back to surgery. You don't want that.

It works a lot like those neat new inflatable ones....I take a box, cut a circlethat is about 4-6" sort of out of it....and I then cut a circle in the middle of that circle that will fit around her neck. I make holes on ends so that I can lace it up...and I put it from her neck to her shoulder and use the laces to tighten it up...they can turn enough to get at their eye or face but they can lie down and see out of the side of their eyes and they can move their head some but wide collar around their neck keeps them from turning and getting at their faces. When I am going to bed or will not be home I take hind legs and put them in tennis socks and use eithe packing tape,or duct tape and tape the sock on hind feet so that the sock is taped above the joint at the top of the hock and below the bend at the top of the hock...they can't get it off ...I even have taped the foot part...but that is not too comfortable...you just don't want the sock dangling off and tempting your baby to try to reach that. It won't last long...I give mine a benedryl when I needed to do that. I only used it once on a bulldog...but my daughter has made them several times for her greyhound rescue b/c their skin is so thin and delicate around their nose ...it even kept her from getting at scratch until it healed.
Guess that is why she calls me from Arizona to Upstate NY before she takes anyone to the vet!
I have a family of practical cheapskates (when possible...not in dangerous situations)

Lorraine
If only I was as good a person as my dogs seem to think I am!
Find us on:
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It works a lot like those neat new inflatable ones....I take a box, cut a circlethat is about 4-6" sort of out of it....and I then cut a circle in the middle of that circle that will fit around her neck. I make holes on ends so that I can lace it up...and I put it from her neck to her shoulder and use the laces to tighten it up...they can turn enough to get at their eye or face but they can lie down and see out of the side of their eyes and they can move their head some but wide collar around their neck keeps them from turning and getting at their faces. When I am going to bed or will not be home I take hind legs and put them in tennis socks and use eithe packing tape,or duct tape and tape the sock on hind feet so that the sock is taped above the joint at the top of the hock and below the bend at the top of the hock...they can't get it off ...I even have taped the foot part...but that is not too comfortable...you just don't want the sock dangling off and tempting your baby to try to reach that. It won't last long...I give mine a benedryl when I needed to do that. I only used it once on a bulldog...but my daughter has made them several times for her greyhound rescue b/c their skin is so thin and delicate around their nose ...it even kept her from getting at scratch until it healed.
Guess that is why she calls me from Arizona to Upstate NY before she takes anyone to the vet!
I have a family of practical cheapskates (when possible...not in dangerous situations)

Lorraine
If only I was as good a person as my dogs seem to think I am!
Find us on:
www.karismakennels.com

Hey my baby just had her eyes done 5/18 and is doing really well the eye ointment you just have to hold her head a little and be real fast put the ointment in both eyes.I do it after she has had her pain meds and anitibiotic.This is day 5 and I don't think she is in a lot of pain.My baby is up and doing her thing running the house taking all her toys and putting them all over jumpping like a kangroo.And the con thing for her head well Baby wasn't having it.I put it on and went to sleep thinking she would be o.k and the next morning it was off.How she got it off I don't know because that was the last time she had it on and it's been off sense day 1.

Hey my baby just had her eyes done 5/18 and is doing really well the eye ointment you just have to hold her head a little and be real fast put the ointment in both eyes.I do it after she has had her pain meds and anitibiotic.This is day 5 and I don't think she is in a lot of pain.My baby is up and doing her thing running the house taking all her toys and putting them all over jumpping like a kangroo.And the con thing for her head well Baby wasn't having it.I put it on and went to sleep thinking she would be o.k and the next morning it was off.How she got it off I don't know because that was the last time she had it on and it's been off sense day 1.

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My appreciation for all of the help cannot be measured!!! Thank GOD for Bulldogsworld and all of your expertise!!! Each and every one of you who replied, thank you!

~Caroline

Maizy had the surgery on all four lids about 5 years ago. She didn't wear a cone and only tried to scratch her eyes one time. I immediately took her to the Vet and got an e collar. She looked so pitiful with it on that I took it off of her when we got back in the car. She never tried to scratch her eyes again. But, she was watched 24/7.

I would try cooking some hamburger and rice or something like that for a couple of days until he starts feeling better.

Maizy had the surgery on all four lids about 5 years ago. She didn't wear a cone and only tried to scratch her eyes one time. I immediately took her to the Vet and got an e collar. She looked so pitiful with it on that I took it off of her when we got back in the car. She never tried to scratch her eyes again. But, she was watched 24/7.

I would try cooking some hamburger and rice or something like that for a couple of days until he starts feeling better.

we never used a collar. The vet sent one home with her for "just in case" but we never had to put it on her. Punkie's vet taped her dew claws so she couldn't pull the stitches out. I don't work so I watched her every minute. She also sleeps in bed with me and when she gets in bed she puts her head on my pillow and starts snoring within 30 seconds and never moves until the next morning. She had her stitches removed on Tuesday and is doing great! I think Punk would have reacted to the collar just as your Burger is...

If you have two people the ointment is a little easier. I stood behind Punkie with my knees in her middle to hold her still...my daughter held her head up and I put the ointment in. Punkie is a strong 62 pound girl...it took two of us to hold her still.

Good Luck with Burger...he will feel so much better in a few days. It's wonderful to see both eyes wide open and pain-free!

we never used a collar. The vet sent one home with her for "just in case" but we never had to put it on her. Punkie's vet taped her dew claws so she couldn't pull the stitches out. I don't work so I watched her every minute. She also sleeps in bed with me and when she gets in bed she puts her head on my pillow and starts snoring within 30 seconds and never moves until the next morning. She had her stitches removed on Tuesday and is doing great! I think Punk would have reacted to the collar just as your Burger is...

If you have two people the ointment is a little easier. I stood behind Punkie with my knees in her middle to hold her still...my daughter held her head up and I put the ointment in. Punkie is a strong 62 pound girl...it took two of us to hold her still.

Good Luck with Burger...he will feel so much better in a few days. It's wonderful to see both eyes wide open and pain-free!

You need to get some alternative arrangement where he cannot scratch his eyes, and you need to calm him down. If your vet cannot supply the type of "collar" that inflates much like the ones used for human whiplash neck support, try a human medical supply store. I haven't seen your bully but you should expect that any neck protection will be somewhat uncomfortable and restrictive...that's what its for...to keep him from rubbing those eyes.

You may need to tranquilize him to allow you access to treating his eyes, because its important that medication gets in there at least twice daily, altho I'm betting the vet said 3 or 4 times a day. Have you ever tried giving your bulldog Benadryl? Give two tablets...it may make him a bit sleepy...it can be repeated every 8hrs for a couple days, until you get into a routine with him.

If you take off the plastic collar, be sure you have a leash on him beforehand so you can keep some control of the dog! Get a clean small towel and soak it in cool water...wring it out somewhat but NOT DRY, and lay it across his eyes. This is to make them a bit more comfortable. Then do the same thing with a warm towel, only this time you may need to gently wipe away any accumulated medicine/goop/dried tears and I suggest you do that in one direction only, so you don't put too much strain on those sutures. While you have him down, then put drops in both eyes. They only need one drop but if you think you missed the eye, do another drop. Don't be concerned about over-medicating because any extra will just run out...the eye can only hold a little additional moisture at one time.

If he rubs his eyes with his paw or tries to ram his head into some furniture to wipe away his eye-annoyance then you KNOW he MUST keep some sort of collar on. If he relaxes a bit and you have time to watch him, you can leave it off for short periods of time (and this gives the neck a chance to breathe also). BUT HE MUST WEAR SOMETHING PROTECTIVE WHILE YOU ARE NOT THERE. Having him tear out the sutures will cause all kinds of problems including needing to re-do the procedure, with complications that can include ulcers from scratching.

As for eating/drinking, many here are able to remove the collar to allow dogs to eat/drink (with leash on)while you are standing right there...and then the collar goes back on after meals.

The plastic E-collar (Elizabethan style)is an annoyance, it scares the dogs, it bruises your legs, it needs to be cleaned daily, and it can cause neck scrapes/sores...but it does protect the eyes. If you "trim" it down a bit, around the outer edge, remember that it needs to be at least as long as the dog's nose - or in the case of a bulldog, his most protruding facial feature, or he can 'reach around it' and it becomes useless! You can put some duct tape around the neck-edge to provide some "cushioning" to reduce rubbing on the skin.

You need to get some alternative arrangement where he cannot scratch his eyes, and you need to calm him down. If your vet cannot supply the type of "collar" that inflates much like the ones used for human whiplash neck support, try a human medical supply store. I haven't seen your bully but you should expect that any neck protection will be somewhat uncomfortable and restrictive...that's what its for...to keep him from rubbing those eyes.

You may need to tranquilize him to allow you access to treating his eyes, because its important that medication gets in there at least twice daily, altho I'm betting the vet said 3 or 4 times a day. Have you ever tried giving your bulldog Benadryl? Give two tablets...it may make him a bit sleepy...it can be repeated every 8hrs for a couple days, until you get into a routine with him.

If you take off the plastic collar, be sure you have a leash on him beforehand so you can keep some control of the dog! Get a clean small towel and soak it in cool water...wring it out somewhat but NOT DRY, and lay it across his eyes. This is to make them a bit more comfortable. Then do the same thing with a warm towel, only this time you may need to gently wipe away any accumulated medicine/goop/dried tears and I suggest you do that in one direction only, so you don't put too much strain on those sutures. While you have him down, then put drops in both eyes. They only need one drop but if you think you missed the eye, do another drop. Don't be concerned about over-medicating because any extra will just run out...the eye can only hold a little additional moisture at one time.

If he rubs his eyes with his paw or tries to ram his head into some furniture to wipe away his eye-annoyance then you KNOW he MUST keep some sort of collar on. If he relaxes a bit and you have time to watch him, you can leave it off for short periods of time (and this gives the neck a chance to breathe also). BUT HE MUST WEAR SOMETHING PROTECTIVE WHILE YOU ARE NOT THERE. Having him tear out the sutures will cause all kinds of problems including needing to re-do the procedure, with complications that can include ulcers from scratching.

As for eating/drinking, many here are able to remove the collar to allow dogs to eat/drink (with leash on)while you are standing right there...and then the collar goes back on after meals.

The plastic E-collar (Elizabethan style)is an annoyance, it scares the dogs, it bruises your legs, it needs to be cleaned daily, and it can cause neck scrapes/sores...but it does protect the eyes. If you "trim" it down a bit, around the outer edge, remember that it needs to be at least as long as the dog's nose - or in the case of a bulldog, his most protruding facial feature, or he can 'reach around it' and it becomes useless! You can put some duct tape around the neck-edge to provide some "cushioning" to reduce rubbing on the skin.

When Gretta had her entropian surgery many, many years ago, she was just like Burger, and was miserable with that cone. When I was at work, she had to keep it on, because I could not watch her. At night, she slept with me, and I took it off. She was so exhausted, she would fall right to sleep. I curled up next to her, wherever she was on the bed, so if she woke up, so did I.

If you are home with him, and he is that unhappy, with 100% supervision, I would take it off. Let him nap, bring him outside without it so he he is less stressed and will go to the bathroom.

With the ointment, offer his very favorite treat to distract him...maybe you or your husband has the treat, the other can do the medication.

I hope that helps. It is so important that he does not rub his eyes, and if he tries as soon as it comes off, on it goes again. When Gretta had it off, she did not attempt to rub her eye at all. I think she was just so happy to have that scary (to her) cone off her body.

Kim

When Gretta had her entropian surgery many, many years ago, she was just like Burger, and was miserable with that cone. When I was at work, she had to keep it on, because I could not watch her. At night, she slept with me, and I took it off. She was so exhausted, she would fall right to sleep. I curled up next to her, wherever she was on the bed, so if she woke up, so did I.

If you are home with him, and he is that unhappy, with 100% supervision, I would take it off. Let him nap, bring him outside without it so he he is less stressed and will go to the bathroom.

With the ointment, offer his very favorite treat to distract him...maybe you or your husband has the treat, the other can do the medication.

I hope that helps. It is so important that he does not rub his eyes, and if he tries as soon as it comes off, on it goes again. When Gretta had it off, she did not attempt to rub her eye at all. I think she was just so happy to have that scary (to her) cone off her body.

Kim

Thanks so much for the advice, should he sleep with the cone on too? He stood for at least 2hrs with the cone on, asleep while standing. We felt SO BAD. My husband and I caved in last night and took it off but I will need to stick to my guns tonight. Last night we covered his bed in clean white towels and kept a VERY CLOSE eye on him. My husband just called and said that he wont eat or go outside.

I think I need to call the vet, I'm getting worried. He usually sleeps till 10am but it's now 12:30pm. But then again, he didnt get much sleep last night. My poor baby!!!

Thanks so much for the advice, should he sleep with the cone on too? He stood for at least 2hrs with the cone on, asleep while standing. We felt SO BAD. My husband and I caved in last night and took it off but I will need to stick to my guns tonight. Last night we covered his bed in clean white towels and kept a VERY CLOSE eye on him. My husband just called and said that he wont eat or go outside.

I think I need to call the vet, I'm getting worried. He usually sleeps till 10am but it's now 12:30pm. But then again, he didnt get much sleep last night. My poor baby!!!

It will feel better in a few days.

The way I put eye drops or ointment in--

I stand over the dog and squeeze my knees together in front of his hips and behind his ribs. That should keep him from pulling away as well as still and standing. Then you have 2 hands free to do the drops or ointment. I would probably take the cone off to do it. Left hand under the chin to hold the head up and right hand to hold the tube and put in the ointment. I use my left thumb to pull the lid down and bring the right hand around with the tube of ointment squeezed out 1/4 inch and ready to put in the pocket of the lower lid.

Another way that works for my Belle is to put her in her donut bed on her back. She can't move from that position unless I help her. That's how I clean her ears and dremmel her nails.

If you have the snap on cone it works better than the one the one that ties on. I usually take it off for meals, but I watch very carefully and put it on immediately when the dog is finished. Those stitches itch terribly. If you take off the cone and he carpet surfs his stitches off, you will be back in surgery and you don't want that.

If he will let you, you can put wet warm compresses on his eyes to soften the crusty eye crud he wakes up with in the morning.

It will feel better in a few days.

The way I put eye drops or ointment in--

I stand over the dog and squeeze my knees together in front of his hips and behind his ribs. That should keep him from pulling away as well as still and standing. Then you have 2 hands free to do the drops or ointment. I would probably take the cone off to do it. Left hand under the chin to hold the head up and right hand to hold the tube and put in the ointment. I use my left thumb to pull the lid down and bring the right hand around with the tube of ointment squeezed out 1/4 inch and ready to put in the pocket of the lower lid.

Another way that works for my Belle is to put her in her donut bed on her back. She can't move from that position unless I help her. That's how I clean her ears and dremmel her nails.

If you have the snap on cone it works better than the one the one that ties on. I usually take it off for meals, but I watch very carefully and put it on immediately when the dog is finished. Those stitches itch terribly. If you take off the cone and he carpet surfs his stitches off, you will be back in surgery and you don't want that.

If he will let you, you can put wet warm compresses on his eyes to soften the crusty eye crud he wakes up with in the morning.

washing my hands, using alcohol after the wash and applying it with my fingers instead of the tube. I hold treats in my left hand which is also holding his chin, and then I put the ointment in his right eye.

I know it is not the best way to do it but I figure I am cleaning my hands with soap and then alcohol and then apply it. It is better then not putting it in at all.

washing my hands, using alcohol after the wash and applying it with my fingers instead of the tube. I hold treats in my left hand which is also holding his chin, and then I put the ointment in his right eye.

I know it is not the best way to do it but I figure I am cleaning my hands with soap and then alcohol and then apply it. It is better then not putting it in at all.