and I preface these with the comment that I don't breed any longer and seldom did when I owned dogs (bred 6 litters in 35ys of bulldog ownership). I have been around bulldogs for a LONG time however and worked with rescue and adoption programs for years. These are my own guidelines and opinions:

1-Agree with Vicky's statement that not every bitch/dog should be used in breeding and most everyone who shows competitively is very selective about which dogs/bitches they use, so the answer here is 'going with a breeder who shows' is your most likely way to find the better bloodlines (not necessarily better-known or popular, but "better" in terms of selection).

2-ANY guarantee is only worth the value of the person who is standing behind it (unless you like going into court) and a good breeder will IMO allow you at least 72hrs to have the prospective pup examined by a vet of your own choosing; if the dog doesn't pass health inspection (written evaluation by the vet doing the exam) then it can be returned for full refund. Its unfair to ask a seller to wait many days or weeks for this exam...buyers are interested and the pup is supposedly healthy and ready to go. Its also unfair to not give the buyer a couple days to arrange for that vet visit (work schedules, driving distances, vet's appointment schedule all have to be factored in). I'm comfortable with the 3-day return policy.

3-If a pup is sold in less than "healthy" status, ie with URI or vaccination reaction, cherry-eye, etc., there should be some price adjustment to allow for reasonable vet care IMO, and this should all be noted in the bill of sale. Honesty is the best policy. Many of these items are not life-threatening and will be easily treatable, but lies and misinformation kills trust.

4-A good conscientious breeder will want to keep in touch with the buyer and encourage same. A wise buyer will cherish this relationship and learn from it. A broker is not the same as a breeder and I can't endorse doing business with any dog broker.

5-I agree entirely that there's a world of difference between selling a "show puppy" and a "show prospect". The former is at best an exaggeration and at worst a lie...the latter is an experienced evaluation based on years of successful breeding and should also be a guide to finding the best home for that particular pup, ie, a chance for dog to be shown competitively. If you're looking for a healthy well-adjusted family pet, then buy one of the 'other pups' from a breeder who tried to get "show prospects" from this mating...and get this pup with "limited registration" which holds you to your promise of loving this pet for himself/herself solely as your family pet.

and I preface these with the comment that I don't breed any longer and seldom did when I owned dogs (bred 6 litters in 35ys of bulldog ownership). I have been around bulldogs for a LONG time however and worked with rescue and adoption programs for years. These are my own guidelines and opinions:

1-Agree with Vicky's statement that not every bitch/dog should be used in breeding and most everyone who shows competitively is very selective about which dogs/bitches they use, so the answer here is 'going with a breeder who shows' is your most likely way to find the better bloodlines (not necessarily better-known or popular, but "better" in terms of selection).

2-ANY guarantee is only worth the value of the person who is standing behind it (unless you like going into court) and a good breeder will IMO allow you at least 72hrs to have the prospective pup examined by a vet of your own choosing; if the dog doesn't pass health inspection (written evaluation by the vet doing the exam) then it can be returned for full refund. Its unfair to ask a seller to wait many days or weeks for this exam...buyers are interested and the pup is supposedly healthy and ready to go. Its also unfair to not give the buyer a couple days to arrange for that vet visit (work schedules, driving distances, vet's appointment schedule all have to be factored in). I'm comfortable with the 3-day return policy.

3-If a pup is sold in less than "healthy" status, ie with URI or vaccination reaction, cherry-eye, etc., there should be some price adjustment to allow for reasonable vet care IMO, and this should all be noted in the bill of sale. Honesty is the best policy. Many of these items are not life-threatening and will be easily treatable, but lies and misinformation kills trust.

4-A good conscientious breeder will want to keep in touch with the buyer and encourage same. A wise buyer will cherish this relationship and learn from it. A broker is not the same as a breeder and I can't endorse doing business with any dog broker.

5-I agree entirely that there's a world of difference between selling a "show puppy" and a "show prospect". The former is at best an exaggeration and at worst a lie...the latter is an experienced evaluation based on years of successful breeding and should also be a guide to finding the best home for that particular pup, ie, a chance for dog to be shown competitively. If you're looking for a healthy well-adjusted family pet, then buy one of the 'other pups' from a breeder who tried to get "show prospects" from this mating...and get this pup with "limited registration" which holds you to your promise of loving this pet for himself/herself solely as your family pet.

stand behind their pups they breed healthy dogs.

I would not buy from a person who has to have a contract who will replace puppies as needed, that to me says they have breed more then they should so they can replace the ones who dont work out.

IMO you should not have the need to replace puppies if you breed healthy dogs, yes things come up and an ethical breeder stands behind the dog and will do what is needed for the owner and pup to make good.

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

stand behind their pups they breed healthy dogs.

I would not buy from a person who has to have a contract who will replace puppies as needed, that to me says they have breed more then they should so they can replace the ones who dont work out.

IMO you should not have the need to replace puppies if you breed healthy dogs, yes things come up and an ethical breeder stands behind the dog and will do what is needed for the owner and pup to make good.

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to buy a puppy from a breeder who won't stand behind the health of their pups.

In regards to a show/breeding dog, as Vicki said nobody can guarantee that of a pup, at most they can sell you a "show potential" pup.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to buy a puppy from a breeder who won't stand behind the health of their pups.

In regards to a show/breeding dog, as Vicki said nobody can guarantee that of a pup, at most they can sell you a "show potential" pup.

IMO, i have mentors who have been breeding for more years then i have been alive, they have BIS, BISS American & Canadian Champions. They are HOF breeders and are very respected in the bulldog world. They have been around the block and know the breed. You breed for HEALTH number 1, if you have a stud and a Bitch doesnt mean they should have babies. They have to be Healthy to start with. When the puppy leaves the breeders house they are healthy, over the next year they are in the buyers care, and as a breeder have NO control or idea what happens. A dog many or many not be taken care of well, they could get injured which can cause issues that look like they are genetic and should the breeder be responsible for them?

I have learned from them and several others.

Many who offer guarantees have an endless supply of puppies, so if your puppy goes in the crapper they have another puppy that can replace the one you have. Send back the puppy you love and they will send you another puppy.

I for 1 do not want a puppy from an endless supply where they always have a puppy who can replace another. If they are breeding healthy dogs they dont have to worry much about replacing or taking back a beloved pet.

A breeder should not sell a dog saying he or she is show quality, you dont know that unless they are an adult. You have an idea how the dog will look, but i have been the most beautyful puppy go very ugly and not come back at 10 months. I have also seen the ugly pet, turn out to be the pick of the litter.


JMO

Vicky

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

IMO, i have mentors who have been breeding for more years then i have been alive, they have BIS, BISS American & Canadian Champions. They are HOF breeders and are very respected in the bulldog world. They have been around the block and know the breed. You breed for HEALTH number 1, if you have a stud and a Bitch doesnt mean they should have babies. They have to be Healthy to start with. When the puppy leaves the breeders house they are healthy, over the next year they are in the buyers care, and as a breeder have NO control or idea what happens. A dog many or many not be taken care of well, they could get injured which can cause issues that look like they are genetic and should the breeder be responsible for them?

I have learned from them and several others.

Many who offer guarantees have an endless supply of puppies, so if your puppy goes in the crapper they have another puppy that can replace the one you have. Send back the puppy you love and they will send you another puppy.

I for 1 do not want a puppy from an endless supply where they always have a puppy who can replace another. If they are breeding healthy dogs they dont have to worry much about replacing or taking back a beloved pet.

A breeder should not sell a dog saying he or she is show quality, you dont know that unless they are an adult. You have an idea how the dog will look, but i have been the most beautyful puppy go very ugly and not come back at 10 months. I have also seen the ugly pet, turn out to be the pick of the litter.


JMO

Vicky

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

http://langagerbulldogs.tripod.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

and have stood behind it. You are welcome to visit my website and read it

Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/

and have stood behind it. You are welcome to visit my website and read it

Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/

good breeders will stand behind their puppies and give a health guarantee. Basically, if a dog comes from good backround, a breeder will guarantee that the puppy will not have genetic issues like bad hips, they will stand behind the puppy they are selling you.

Note: I am just learning all this too. I had a conversation with a fellow rescue person about this today and I am just passing on what I know.

good breeders will stand behind their puppies and give a health guarantee. Basically, if a dog comes from good backround, a breeder will guarantee that the puppy will not have genetic issues like bad hips, they will stand behind the puppy they are selling you.

Note: I am just learning all this too. I had a conversation with a fellow rescue person about this today and I am just passing on what I know.