Yes we have always felt very secure with both Dr B's treating our dogs. We just need to make sure to always request them for all treatments. And yes the prices are not customary vet charges, beleive me I know. She also see's an opthamologist in Tustin for Dry eye and the cost is crazy!

Once they have pyometra you MUST breed them the next heat cycle or spay them. The bacteria can and does come back...which is why they should have advised you to breed or spay her.

Both of the sons of Dr. Butchko do all of the surgeries on the bullies and they are both very good. You do have to request to see a Butchko on your visit but I trust them more then any other vet with my Bullies. There are no frills there and sometimes they aren't good at explaining things to you but it shows through their prices which you can't beat as well as the expert care. I am now in No. Ca. and am considering the drive down there for c-sections, well worth the drive.

the bleeding is normal. If you went to Dr. Butchko, I'm assuming that is who you are refuring to when you say Dr. B.. Just keep up the anibiotics. I have had bitches spayed there and yes they all had some bloody discharge and all are fine.

Yes they told us she possibly had that and we had to give her a human antibiotic for two weeks that cost us $700. This was about a year ago. Would this be connected with her issue now though?

This makes more sense...so maybe you don't understand but it appears your girl did in fact have pyometra before. So what you are going through may be residual pyometra from before. Our breed also has a bleeding disorder...but I assume if your girl had it you would know by now.

Yep thats what I say. I am thankful for the bit of info, we will make sure if there is ever a next time we specify that.

Thanks we actually hesitated for a long time to fix her because the last time when she had her pups she ended up months later with a bacteria in her uterus after alot of money later and stress she did get better. So this has made me hesitant to have her fixed.

and a good amount of rest (no jumping around for at least a week) and the antibiotics she should mend okay. Just sad that Luis and his bitch had to go this route!!

Practice on your own dog, not mine!

So the Baytril WILL help it heal properly or can this become an issue later again?

I know this office is a busy one, with several doctors, not all having the high reputation as the founder. In my own mind I do think one of the lesser-experienced docs did the surgery and they are 'covering for him/her' with this statement. However if the dog is generally making healing progress and there isn't concern about leakage to the point of "hemmorhage" that would require her to be opened up again, then lets just allow her more time for healing, with the a/b's adding some protection against internal infection, and lots of quiet and rest.

Boil some liver and give her a small amount with the juices once daily until she is recovered. The iron will help build her platelet levels back up to normal.

People need to understand that with ANY veterinary practice...especially the busier ones many surgeries are handed off to the lesser experienced vets to gain them experience, at the risk to the animal...without the owners consent. It is incredibly important that when you drop your animal off for surgery you make sure that the specific vet designated is the only one with your permission to do the surgery. Make sure the receptionist notes that on that days medical record page for the specific animal. So then if anyone tries to grab the surgery...there should be immediate question by all involved if it should be allowed. I have never seen a surgery passed on once it was clearly marked on the animals record as to the preference by the owner. I have seen plenty passed on that even though one doctor had examined it and treated it...another stepped in with lesser experience to take on the surgery. I do not now nor will I ever think that Bulldogs are a learning grounds for new vets.

Yes we agree, we were once seen by one of the other docs and were not happy. Our breeder has always told us to request either Dr B, which we normally do. I have been a bit concerned with the volume of clients that they get and hate feeling like its a cattle call when we go in at times.

Dr B is not very local to us so this too is a hardship at times if you or anyone in the forum can recommend any other vets that are well familiar with Bullies we would be grateful. We are in the LA area.

Lola seems to be doing ok, she is a bit more tired then normal but I am just keeping an eye on her and trying to make sure she is comfortable and getting quiet rest. Thanks for your feedback

The Baytril tells you the vet is concerned about infection...otherwise he would have prescribed a milder and cheaper antibiotic if he was just trying to placate you. Obviously just my opinion... If the stump is infected it will not heal normally. It will stay moist and produce pus, the pus combined with a moist stump can produce bloody discharge and globs or "clots" of red discharge. She should be fine once she finishes the round of Baytril.

Hi Elaine Lola is also my baby. I have a question regarding what the vet stated. Have you ever heard of anyone stating that there is normal bleeding up to 10 days after being spayed?

I am stil not comfortable thinking that bloody discharge one week after spay is "normal" but if its not that far off, and her other signs are good, I'm relieved to hear all this. I'm sure you are also, Luis! Sending hugs to your baby.

I should also point out that many people over-estimate the amount of blood a patient has lost because we naturally get excited when we see it. I'm presuming that she probably discharged not much more than a tablespoonful of liquid. Its the fact that it sounds like fresh blood rather than old blood that has my attention...and hopefully the attention of the vet too.

I should also point out that many people over-estimate the amount of blood a patient has lost because we naturally get excited when we see it. I'm presuming that she probably discharged not much more than a tablespoonful of liquid. Its the fact that it sounds like fresh blood rather than old blood that has my attention...and hopefully the attention of the vet too.

I'm only guessing, you understand, but it seems like she is still bleeding from the spay, which isn't normal. I would ask them to x-ray her abdomen to see if there's a lot of fluid in there...worst-case-scenario would be that they have to open her up again and re-suture the area they missed.

If she had a urinary tract infection you would see blood in her urine, but what you have described is a clot discharging without any urination...totally unexpectedly. Her temperature is at the 'low-normal' range and if her gums are healthy I wouldn't feel like she's in danger of shock from the bleeding but I would want to have it stopped/fixed! Again, this is quite apparently a result of the spay surgery since she was healthy before it was done, and I wouldn't pay any office charge for tomorrow's visit either!! Please let us know how she's doing. Sending good thoughts your way...and see one of the Butchkos if you can.

I read your post this morning and was hoping you would have a great post for us later today.

I go to Dr.Butchko. The only problem i s when you don't see Dr. B and you get one of the other Dr.s that work there.Not sure how much they know about bullies.Will take ehr back tomorrow. Thanks for responding.Will keep you posted.

big red clot not normal...means "fresh blood" but I don't think she needs ER tonight. Continue to give Baytril and liquids and insist that the vet sees her tomorrow. Do you like this vet? May be time to change to another one???

Dr. B said it was normal she will probably continue to leak for another 10 days he said.Everything on lab results were normal he said it showed that she is not bleeding internally.Told him about X-rays he said not needed just continue to give her the antibiotic.

Temp. 100.6 2nd time 100.7
Gums look normal.
Clot was bright red.
Acting normal was getting sleepy ready to go to bed.
Doctor gave me Baytril to give her.

1-do you have a thermometer and can you take her temperature...it shouldn't be above 103.

2-was the clot that she discharged the same brownish as the other discharge she had a few days ago?

3-is she acting like she's in pain, dopey or weak?

4-can you lift her upper lip and look at her gums...they should be a normal "pink" and not very pale or whittish.