Hi, I have a healthy 2 year old male Bully named Boog .We live in Ontario, so its just starting to get hot outside. I'm just wondering if his breathing problems are within a normal range for a Bully. First of all, on a daily basis at home and in the yard, his breathing is just fine, he breathes quietly through his nose, except for is he's playing a lot he pants a little, like any dog would. At night he breathes a little louder, but not much and he often snores, but it's not very loud. I am aware that bully's can overheat quickly and cannot run around like other dog for long periods of time... ( I have a little Terrier mix, that can go and go and go!) About a month ago we took Boog to the dog park, it was a warm day, but not hot. He was very excited and did a lot of running, after about 20 minutes, we left because his breathing was getting labored, it was more than panting, it almost sounded like a snore and I could see he was struggling. We wet him down and blasted the air conditioning in the car, he continued to breathe like this for the 15 minute ride home and I would say he took another half an hour for his breathing to return completely to normal. Needless to say,no more dog parks for us, at least not until fall when it cools off. Yesterday, I took him to sit outside Starbucks, it was hot out, but he was in the shade and had water, I kept a close eye on him and I know he was comfortable, not even panting. Then we walked around an air conditioned pet store for about half an hour. I noticed he was starting to pant in the store and then start that snoring sound when he was breathing. It was a 15 minute ride home in the car, which was warm, he was breathing hard, but it certainly wasn't alarming. When we got home we decided to set up his swimming pool in the back yard, his breathing was still a little labored, when he saw the pool he got super excited and immediately started making a whistling sound when he was trying to breathe in. We brought him in the house, and it was really scary, he was really fighting to breathe, I could see his ribs everytime he tried to suck in air, it only lasted for about 2 minutes, he had a drink and laid down and was fine quite quickly. Later we took him out and he played in the pool and was just fine. I know this is really long and detailed, but I just wanted to describe all the circumstances that led up to his episode. Please let me know if you think this is within a normal range of breathing for a Bully.
Re: Oh...
Yes, I'll look forward to seeing you at one of the meetups,we had decided we would not attend any of the outdoor meetups, because of Boog's breathing issues. But after he's recovered from surgery, we will definitely show up........ I can hardly believe he'll be able to run and play, we have had to be so careful with him, and when we do take him out we've always had to leave early. He's going to wonder whats happened to him! I can't imagine what a handful he'll be after he's all better....................
Re: Oh...
Yes, I'll look forward to seeing you at one of the meetups,we had decided we would not attend any of the outdoor meetups, because of Boog's breathing issues. But after he's recovered from surgery, we will definitely show up........ I can hardly believe he'll be able to run and play, we have had to be so careful with him, and when we do take him out we've always had to leave early. He's going to wonder whats happened to him! I can't imagine what a handful he'll be after he's all better....................
Thanks Tina
Tina you were a godsend to me when I was going through this with Dozer. Your posts are what got me through all of this. Just knowing you had been through this and had such positive results gave me hope for Dozer. Thanks again for all you did! You are the best!
Thanks Tina
Tina you were a godsend to me when I was going through this with Dozer. Your posts are what got me through all of this. Just knowing you had been through this and had such positive results gave me hope for Dozer. Thanks again for all you did! You are the best!
Oh...
yes, I see you are a member. You will see me on the message board often.
I believe you are in good hands at Morningside because most of Bob Kenn`s previous bully clients are still there. He himself owned bulldogs. It is, as you know a vet hospital with board certified surgeons with bully experience. I did previously go there to get a second opinion on my boy`s airway.
Best of luck, and we will meet in person one day at a meetup. (cute pics of your boy)
Oh...
yes, I see you are a member. You will see me on the message board often.
I believe you are in good hands at Morningside because most of Bob Kenn`s previous bully clients are still there. He himself owned bulldogs. It is, as you know a vet hospital with board certified surgeons with bully experience. I did previously go there to get a second opinion on my boy`s airway.
Best of luck, and we will meet in person one day at a meetup. (cute pics of your boy)
Thanks...
Thanks so much Jacinda, It really helps to know that others have gone through this situation, and come out the other side with such great results.
Thanks...
Thanks so much Jacinda, It really helps to know that others have gone through this situation, and come out the other side with such great results.
I feel better after reading your post...
Thanks so much for your post. Last night I was getting emotional and thinking about all the what ifs? I could barely stand to look at Boog's big brown eyes... I'm sure you know what I mean, he's so innocent and has no idea what's going on. On one hand I'm dreading the surgery and on other hand I can't wait. The thought of him being able to run and play is really exciting... lately I've been feeling like he's trapped in a body that won't allow him to enjoy life! Thanks again.
I feel better after reading your post...
Thanks so much for your post. Last night I was getting emotional and thinking about all the what ifs? I could barely stand to look at Boog's big brown eyes... I'm sure you know what I mean, he's so innocent and has no idea what's going on. On one hand I'm dreading the surgery and on other hand I can't wait. The thought of him being able to run and play is really exciting... lately I've been feeling like he's trapped in a body that won't allow him to enjoy life! Thanks again.
Re: which vet??
I'm not sure of the name of the vet, I'm still waiting for them to contact me, but I know I've been referred to someone at Morningside. Our regular vet is Dr. George Hillis in Oshawa, who treats lots of Bullies, I guess that I'm trusting him that he is referring me to a good vet at Morningside....... but I'll definitely ask if he is experienced with Bullies. I actually belong to the Toronto Bulldog Meetup Group maybe I've even met you, can't say I remember being introduced to a Mr. Higgins though!
Re: which vet??
I'm not sure of the name of the vet, I'm still waiting for them to contact me, but I know I've been referred to someone at Morningside. Our regular vet is Dr. George Hillis in Oshawa, who treats lots of Bullies, I guess that I'm trusting him that he is referring me to a good vet at Morningside....... but I'll definitely ask if he is experienced with Bullies. I actually belong to the Toronto Bulldog Meetup Group maybe I've even met you, can't say I remember being introduced to a Mr. Higgins though!
which vet??
have you been referred to in Scarborough? The only bully vet I knew of was Dr.Bob Kenn, but he has left the clinic at Morningside Animal Hospital. I live in North York and my boy was done by the specialist at the Veterinary Emerg/Referral Clinic downtown.
Best of luck, you are such a good bully mom.
Keep us informed and you are welcome to join our Toronto Bulldog Meetup Group. We have over 240 members now and it is great fun.
which vet??
have you been referred to in Scarborough? The only bully vet I knew of was Dr.Bob Kenn, but he has left the clinic at Morningside Animal Hospital. I live in North York and my boy was done by the specialist at the Veterinary Emerg/Referral Clinic downtown.
Best of luck, you are such a good bully mom.
Keep us informed and you are welcome to join our Toronto Bulldog Meetup Group. We have over 240 members now and it is great fun.
Know how you feel
I felt exactly the same way...I couldn't wait for the surgery so I didn't have to panic everytime Dozer started panting, but the closer it got, I started to worry about what if something goes wrong, what if this doesn't work, etc. I cried driving to the vet because we didn't know him at all and I knew Dozer wouldn't understand why we were leaving him in a strange place. Once we met the specialist, I felt much better. That is my best piece of advice to you, find someone who knows the breed and has a lot of experience with the surgery. This vet was amazing and I will always be thankful to him for giving Dozer a new lease on life. I still can't believe how much this has improved Dozer's quality of life. He ran and played so much at our cookout yesterday that he has spent today trying to catch up on his sleep
Feel free to email me if you need to talk...believe me, I know how worried you are.
Know how you feel
I felt exactly the same way...I couldn't wait for the surgery so I didn't have to panic everytime Dozer started panting, but the closer it got, I started to worry about what if something goes wrong, what if this doesn't work, etc. I cried driving to the vet because we didn't know him at all and I knew Dozer wouldn't understand why we were leaving him in a strange place. Once we met the specialist, I felt much better. That is my best piece of advice to you, find someone who knows the breed and has a lot of experience with the surgery. This vet was amazing and I will always be thankful to him for giving Dozer a new lease on life. I still can't believe how much this has improved Dozer's quality of life. He ran and played so much at our cookout yesterday that he has spent today trying to catch up on his sleep
Feel free to email me if you need to talk...believe me, I know how worried you are.
I'm glad I read your post too!
I first came to Bulldog's World this past spring when Bernie was having trouble breathing and ended up having the palate surgery. Later on, I read your posts about Dozer (prior to his surgery) and was able to give you advice. I have been wondering about you and Dozer and am glad to hear he is doing better. I am also glad you have been able to reassure another Bully Mommy and pass on your new knowledge. Take care!
I'm glad I read your post too!
I first came to Bulldog's World this past spring when Bernie was having trouble breathing and ended up having the palate surgery. Later on, I read your posts about Dozer (prior to his surgery) and was able to give you advice. I have been wondering about you and Dozer and am glad to hear he is doing better. I am also glad you have been able to reassure another Bully Mommy and pass on your new knowledge. Take care!
Thank you so much for your replies.............
I got him an appointment with the vet this afternoon, I think I've been in a little bit of denial, and just didn't want to consider anything could be wrong with my little guy. Hopefully he checks out ok, but if not, we'll do whatever we need to, to get him fixed up. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for your replies.............
I got him an appointment with the vet this afternoon, I think I've been in a little bit of denial, and just didn't want to consider anything could be wrong with my little guy. Hopefully he checks out ok, but if not, we'll do whatever we need to, to get him fixed up. Thanks again.
I also agree that he needs to be checked by his vet...but...
did you teach him to eat ice when he was young? We have two bullies and one of the first things we did was to start giving them ice as pups.(since we live in Texas and it is HOT!!) The ice will cool the dog from the inside out and keep them hydrated, as well. Ice is readily available even when out and about...our bullies think of ice as a treat and love to eat it. They love to go to the snow-cone stand with us...we get them a snow cone with no flavor and they love it! They love Sonic ice too!
Good luck with Boog...hope he checks out ok!
By the way, you can also freeze chicken broth in ice cube trays...a super cool, low fat/low cal and inexpensive treat for the hot summer!
I also agree that he needs to be checked by his vet...but...
did you teach him to eat ice when he was young? We have two bullies and one of the first things we did was to start giving them ice as pups.(since we live in Texas and it is HOT!!) The ice will cool the dog from the inside out and keep them hydrated, as well. Ice is readily available even when out and about...our bullies think of ice as a treat and love to eat it. They love to go to the snow-cone stand with us...we get them a snow cone with no flavor and they love it! They love Sonic ice too!
Good luck with Boog...hope he checks out ok!
By the way, you can also freeze chicken broth in ice cube trays...a super cool, low fat/low cal and inexpensive treat for the hot summer!
I agree...get his palate checked by a bulldog....
knowledgable vet.
Noisy, labored breathing is indicative of an elongated palate. If the palate was not long he would still pant but the air, in & out would be smooth and quiet.
Sue
I agree...get his palate checked by a bulldog....
knowledgable vet.
Noisy, labored breathing is indicative of an elongated palate. If the palate was not long he would still pant but the air, in & out would be smooth and quiet.
Sue
My two girls had the surgery
It has really improved their quality of life. Maizy had her palate trimmed and her laryngeal saccules removed and entropian surgery at the same time. Morgan had her palate trimmed, saccules and tonsils removed.

The recovery time is a couple of weeks. I fed them soft foods during that time, no kibble. The Vet may prescribe meds for pain and to help reduce imflammation. Good luck and if you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask.
My two girls had the surgery
It has really improved their quality of life. Maizy had her palate trimmed and her laryngeal saccules removed and entropian surgery at the same time. Morgan had her palate trimmed, saccules and tonsils removed.

The recovery time is a couple of weeks. I fed them soft foods during that time, no kibble. The Vet may prescribe meds for pain and to help reduce imflammation. Good luck and if you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask.
No, I would have your vet check his soft palette
Bulldogs should be able to handle normal activity in average temperatures.
No, I would have your vet check his soft palette
Bulldogs should be able to handle normal activity in average temperatures.
Had the surgery last month
Your description of Boog sounds exactly like our Dozer. Warm weather scared me to death because I never knew how he would tolerate it. Our vet diagnosed him with elongated soft palate and refered us for surgery. Dozer had the surgery April 5th and it was the best thing we could have ever done. He is a new dog! He runs and plays until he finally passes out from exhaustion rather than not being able to breath. It's so nice to be able to let him run and not having to worry. He still snores a little, but not nearly as bad as before.
As far as the surgery, we dropped him off at 8am and he was the first surgical case. They called us by 9:30 to say he was in recovery. We picked him up at 5 that evening. He was a little tired but didn't seem any worse for what he had been through. We kept him on soaked kibble for a few days to let his throat heal and also tried to keep him quiet and not let him get overly excited. Other than that, the recovery was very easy for him. I think it was harder on me than it was one him!
Keep us posted on what you decide to do! Good luck!
Had the surgery last month
Your description of Boog sounds exactly like our Dozer. Warm weather scared me to death because I never knew how he would tolerate it. Our vet diagnosed him with elongated soft palate and refered us for surgery. Dozer had the surgery April 5th and it was the best thing we could have ever done. He is a new dog! He runs and plays until he finally passes out from exhaustion rather than not being able to breath. It's so nice to be able to let him run and not having to worry. He still snores a little, but not nearly as bad as before.
As far as the surgery, we dropped him off at 8am and he was the first surgical case. They called us by 9:30 to say he was in recovery. We picked him up at 5 that evening. He was a little tired but didn't seem any worse for what he had been through. We kept him on soaked kibble for a few days to let his throat heal and also tried to keep him quiet and not let him get overly excited. Other than that, the recovery was very easy for him. I think it was harder on me than it was one him!
Keep us posted on what you decide to do! Good luck!
Boog is back from the vet.......
Well, the vet says he needs surgery for an elongated palate. He's referring us to a specialist in Scarborough, so now I have to wait for them to call and make the arrangements. Has anyone else had a dog have this surgery? Just wondering what the recovery is like, and if there was a real difference in their breathing afterwards. I'm a little stressed about him having surgery, but if it means he'll be able to run and play, and have a better quality of life, I'm all for it.
Boog is back from the vet.......
Well, the vet says he needs surgery for an elongated palate. He's referring us to a specialist in Scarborough, so now I have to wait for them to call and make the arrangements. Has anyone else had a dog have this surgery? Just wondering what the recovery is like, and if there was a real difference in their breathing afterwards. I'm a little stressed about him having surgery, but if it means he'll be able to run and play, and have a better quality of life, I'm all for it.
That last part about the pool excitement
sounds like reverse sneezing to me.
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That last part about the pool excitement
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I hope all goes well with Boog's check-up today...let us know ho
I hope all goes well with Boog's check-up today...let us know ho