Anyone had experience with bleeding ulcers? If so, what did/didn't work for your bully? Lola had partial GI torsion and bloat sx two weeks ago tomorrow. Now she has been diagnosed with bleeding ulcers (from meds she was on) and she is fighting off a huge infection as well. She is pretty lethargic and weak(potty break tires her out), but is eating and drinking okay. She will be back at the vet tomorrow for a recheck and another GHP. Any and all advice would be so appreciated...this has been a really hard month. Thanks.
Elaine ?
If you were trying to avoid protein is there anything you can feed besides commercial diets? She's eating fairly well now, smaller amounts more frequently. Her kidney levels were elevated on Monday's GHP, but my vet thought that may be tied into everything else that is going on with Lola. They previously were ok as we have done a couple GHPs over the last few weeks. He mentioned that a low protein diet may be in her future, but what was key now is just getting nutrients into her, due to weight loss and anemia. As I mentioned in my response to Jess below, we xrayed today and she has bronchitis/some fluid in lungs which has at least explained some things going on with her now. I was hoping to go to a home cooked diet for her from now on, and avoid kibble altogether but not sure if that would be possible if low protein is a must?
Elaine ?
If you were trying to avoid protein is there anything you can feed besides commercial diets? She's eating fairly well now, smaller amounts more frequently. Her kidney levels were elevated on Monday's GHP, but my vet thought that may be tied into everything else that is going on with Lola. They previously were ok as we have done a couple GHPs over the last few weeks. He mentioned that a low protein diet may be in her future, but what was key now is just getting nutrients into her, due to weight loss and anemia. As I mentioned in my response to Jess below, we xrayed today and she has bronchitis/some fluid in lungs which has at least explained some things going on with her now. I was hoping to go to a home cooked diet for her from now on, and avoid kibble altogether but not sure if that would be possible if low protein is a must?
Meds
were prednisone and metacam. Her stool has been fine since Monday - no blood. She is eating more as well. What hasn't corrected is her breathing, still shallow-earlier we had assumed it was a pain response, but she was also getting winded easy starting last wknd. So today we did a chest x-ray. She has bronchitis and some fluid in her lungs. Between stomach xrays 3wks ago, and torsion/bloat surgery 2wks ago, lungs were what we hadn't got a good look at yet. So continuing with antibiotic injections, sucralfate, and have added novosemide to try to clear up the fluid. Also explains why she would dive in to food but wouldn't finish it up - eating getting uncomfortable. Seems to be doing better when I hand feed her slowly so will stick with that for now. Back to the vet on Monday.
Meds
were prednisone and metacam. Her stool has been fine since Monday - no blood. She is eating more as well. What hasn't corrected is her breathing, still shallow-earlier we had assumed it was a pain response, but she was also getting winded easy starting last wknd. So today we did a chest x-ray. She has bronchitis and some fluid in her lungs. Between stomach xrays 3wks ago, and torsion/bloat surgery 2wks ago, lungs were what we hadn't got a good look at yet. So continuing with antibiotic injections, sucralfate, and have added novosemide to try to clear up the fluid. Also explains why she would dive in to food but wouldn't finish it up - eating getting uncomfortable. Seems to be doing better when I hand feed her slowly so will stick with that for now. Back to the vet on Monday.
I give scrambled eggs often to a dog with gentle stomach upset
as long as there's no concern about protein. My dogs love it and if you scramble with 1-2T of heavy cream you can "up" the calories at the same time.
I was reading something just yesterday about human GERD and that its sometimes misdiagnosed as gastric reflux when it is bile reflux coming from a weak valve between the stomach and the small intestines (usual GERD comes from weakened valve between esophagus and stomach)...anyway the article recommended feeding smaller and more frequent meals (like 4 times daily)and of course avoiding things like caffeine, spices, carbonated beverages...things we DON'T give our bullies anyway! The smaller more frequent meals may be helpful in any case. HTH
I give scrambled eggs often to a dog with gentle stomach upset
as long as there's no concern about protein. My dogs love it and if you scramble with 1-2T of heavy cream you can "up" the calories at the same time.
I was reading something just yesterday about human GERD and that its sometimes misdiagnosed as gastric reflux when it is bile reflux coming from a weak valve between the stomach and the small intestines (usual GERD comes from weakened valve between esophagus and stomach)...anyway the article recommended feeding smaller and more frequent meals (like 4 times daily)and of course avoiding things like caffeine, spices, carbonated beverages...things we DON'T give our bullies anyway! The smaller more frequent meals may be helpful in any case. HTH
IN People....
we have went so far as to put pts on a protonix drip. NOw that being said, if the ulcers are ACTIVELY bleeding, again with PEOPLE, they have had them cauterized, and then put on carafate, and and H2 inhibitor (like tagamet, protonix etc) Just out of curiosity....did they say what meds caused it?
IN People....
we have went so far as to put pts on a protonix drip. NOw that being said, if the ulcers are ACTIVELY bleeding, again with PEOPLE, they have had them cauterized, and then put on carafate, and and H2 inhibitor (like tagamet, protonix etc) Just out of curiosity....did they say what meds caused it?
Bleeding ulcers
My "worrier" has/had ulcers (may be gone but I am not taking the chance.) Diagnosed after throwing up HUGE amounts of blood after being on prednisone (steroids contraindicated if ulcers present) Took 5 days to stabilize. Came home on carafate, antibiotics. Now gets cimetidine (tagamet) 400mg twice a day and her kibble is always soaked in water before feeding so it is squishy--and no more prednisone for her ever.
Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/
Bleeding ulcers
My "worrier" has/had ulcers (may be gone but I am not taking the chance.) Diagnosed after throwing up HUGE amounts of blood after being on prednisone (steroids contraindicated if ulcers present) Took 5 days to stabilize. Came home on carafate, antibiotics. Now gets cimetidine (tagamet) 400mg twice a day and her kibble is always soaked in water before feeding so it is squishy--and no more prednisone for her ever.
Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/
It was my rottie...
She had open sores in her mouth from lupus and a small ulcer from pred. She was feeling better in 4-5 days.
![[linked image]](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/rottigirl2/prop.gif)
Bland diet is helpful, too. I fed 4 times a day (small amounts).
Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball
It was my rottie...
She had open sores in her mouth from lupus and a small ulcer from pred. She was feeling better in 4-5 days.
![[linked image]](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/rottigirl2/prop.gif)
Bland diet is helpful, too. I fed 4 times a day (small amounts).
Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball
Thanks
We are using sucralfate already and I'd like to think it is helping. No blood in stool since Monday. Just looking for other ideas...a couple others have suggested pepcid as well, thanks. How long did it take your bully to feel better?
Thanks
We are using sucralfate already and I'd like to think it is helping. No blood in stool since Monday. Just looking for other ideas...a couple others have suggested pepcid as well, thanks. How long did it take your bully to feel better?
Carafate (sucarafate)
It acts like a chemical band-aide on the ulcer to allow healing. It comes in a caplet form, but my vet usually dissolves it and draws up the med in syringes that I can shoot in the dog's mouth. If your vet carries the suspension, take care if your dog is having diarrhea - there's stuff in the carafate suspension that can worsen the diarrhea. Is she also on a histamine blocker (zantac, pepcid, etc?).
![[linked image]](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/rottigirl2/prop.gif)
Hope your poor girl is feeling better soon!
Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball
Carafate (sucarafate)
It acts like a chemical band-aide on the ulcer to allow healing. It comes in a caplet form, but my vet usually dissolves it and draws up the med in syringes that I can shoot in the dog's mouth. If your vet carries the suspension, take care if your dog is having diarrhea - there's stuff in the carafate suspension that can worsen the diarrhea. Is she also on a histamine blocker (zantac, pepcid, etc?).
![[linked image]](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/rottigirl2/prop.gif)
Hope your poor girl is feeling better soon!
Olivia/Kano/Q-Ball
I'd give yogurt and not cottage cheese. nm
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Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/
I'd give yogurt and not cottage cheese. nm
nm
Miriam Olesen
http://www.omegabulldogs.shutterfly.com/
Diet
Right now we are feeding her anything she will eat as she has lost 7pds over the last month with everything she has been through. She was in good shape at 48 pds, but nowhere near overweight then. Trying to keep diet bland and lowfat but interesting. She seems to love cottage cheese, likes fish, this am I gave her a few scrambled eggs and she devoured them. Not so much interested in chicken or turkey lately. Hope the eggs were ok to give her? Any other food suggestions for her sensitive stomach?
Diet
Right now we are feeding her anything she will eat as she has lost 7pds over the last month with everything she has been through. She was in good shape at 48 pds, but nowhere near overweight then. Trying to keep diet bland and lowfat but interesting. She seems to love cottage cheese, likes fish, this am I gave her a few scrambled eggs and she devoured them. Not so much interested in chicken or turkey lately. Hope the eggs were ok to give her? Any other food suggestions for her sensitive stomach?