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interesting info about BNP for eyes-food for thought

so a few weeks ago rescue sent me some tubes of BNP for the rescue dogs i have in. One of the dogs has chronic eye issue and previous owner had been using contact lense solution and neosporin in eyes. This alarmed me as i did not think it was safe that they had been using it.
BUT when i referanced the BNP to Neosporin the ingredients were identical.
I also recieved an email stating that BNP should not be applied into the eye but to the external areas sourrounding the eye.

so i made an attempt to ask a pharmacist about this: The response i got was BNP and Neosporin are identical (may be slighty off set on some brands though). BNP is processed sterile while Neosporin is not as sterile. But he said that once i open the tube of BNP and use in the eye any bacteria can transfer and it is no longer sterile. SO WHY IN THE HELL are we paying 10-15 dollars a tube for BNP?


i then asked a vet: he said that yes they were the same thing- claimed that one is PH balanced for a dogs eye though (not sure i buy that considering the pharmacists said they were often identical in makeup depending on brand- also asked about applying the BNP to the cornea vs the external areas. he said that they tell people this becasue they dont want people applying BNP to the corneal surface and jabbing the end of the tube into the eye causing damage.
But technically it can be applied both ways- with prefered way being the BNP applied into the conjutival sac because that is where most issues Adminse from.

Anway..thought this was all interesting..still not sure if you will find me applying Neosporin into my dogs eyes though- it does say on the tube- DO NOT USE IN EYES!
Interesting...food for thought..




Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma
Foster mom to:
Chloe-apx 7-9
Angel- 9
Blaze-6
Sam-6
Foremen-5
Stormin Norman-2
Dante- apx 5-6
Ole Miss P- now at the bridge- was 13 years old


awesome

thank you for sharing that. I did apply neo to the eye today on one of the rescues for the first time. We will see waht the effect and outcome will be!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma
Foster mom to:
Chloe-apx 7-9
Angel- 9
Blaze-6
Sam-6
Foremen-5
Stormin Norman-2
Dante- apx 5-6
Ole Miss P- now at the bridge- was 13 years old


awesome

thank you for sharing that. I did apply neo to the eye today on one of the rescues for the first time. We will see waht the effect and outcome will be!

Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma
Foster mom to:
Chloe-apx 7-9
Angel- 9
Blaze-6
Sam-6
Foremen-5
Stormin Norman-2
Dante- apx 5-6
Ole Miss P- now at the bridge- was 13 years old


I don't have all the answers either...but using separate tube

for each rescue makes perfect sense, so you aren't transferring any particular infection between different dogs (sometimes its bacterial infection, sometimes its allergic irritation). I would think that using a Q-tip would cause the medication to be used up quicker, plus the possibility of rubbing the cotton on an already-conpromised corneal surface if putting INSIDE the eye, but if using on the eyelids such as post-op entropion surgery, that might work quite well. And I think it also depends on how near the surface of the eye the medication is applied, whether the dog "rubs the lids" etc. as to whether to use "internal medication such as BNP" or option for the easier/less costly route of Neosporin. Obviously with your nursing skills the application will be carefully done and you can probably save quite a bit of cost by using the Neo. This info may help other rescuers in re-evaluating their costs! happy.gif

I don't have all the answers either...but using separate tube

for each rescue makes perfect sense, so you aren't transferring any particular infection between different dogs (sometimes its bacterial infection, sometimes its allergic irritation). I would think that using a Q-tip would cause the medication to be used up quicker, plus the possibility of rubbing the cotton on an already-conpromised corneal surface if putting INSIDE the eye, but if using on the eyelids such as post-op entropion surgery, that might work quite well. And I think it also depends on how near the surface of the eye the medication is applied, whether the dog "rubs the lids" etc. as to whether to use "internal medication such as BNP" or option for the easier/less costly route of Neosporin. Obviously with your nursing skills the application will be carefully done and you can probably save quite a bit of cost by using the Neo. This info may help other rescuers in re-evaluating their costs! happy.gif

Re: While it may be that medicinal ingredients are the same,

brings me to another point though..if a vet says to apply only to external area of eye, then apply neopsporin in this same manner would be no different.

now about sterility...think about how many apply BNP. They open the tube, pull down the bottom lid and squeeze the tube of ointmen into the eye, making a 1-2cm line and use the weight of the ointment to stop and bring up the tube. In doing this, its isnt a sterile anymore. Bacteria has now ben allowed to enter into the tube via application. Guess it would be better to take a qtip and scrape off the ointment and then apply to eye?

I am not arging here..but this really had me thinking in the past few weeks becasue i am going through eye meds like crazy with the rescues and after i was told about the sterility i then made sure each dog had thier own tube with tier name on it..

IDK...really this has me confused and doesnt make all that much sense..i only questioned it becasue the case of BNP cost me over 100.00 and i started thinking if i could use Neo it sure would have saved me alot of $$$$$$$$



Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma
Foster mom to:
Chloe-apx 7-9
Angel- 9
Blaze-6
Sam-6
Foremen-5
Stormin Norman-2
Dante- apx 5-6
Ole Miss P- now at the bridge- was 13 years old


Re: While it may be that medicinal ingredients are the same,

brings me to another point though..if a vet says to apply only to external area of eye, then apply neopsporin in this same manner would be no different.

now about sterility...think about how many apply BNP. They open the tube, pull down the bottom lid and squeeze the tube of ointmen into the eye, making a 1-2cm line and use the weight of the ointment to stop and bring up the tube. In doing this, its isnt a sterile anymore. Bacteria has now ben allowed to enter into the tube via application. Guess it would be better to take a qtip and scrape off the ointment and then apply to eye?

I am not arging here..but this really had me thinking in the past few weeks becasue i am going through eye meds like crazy with the rescues and after i was told about the sterility i then made sure each dog had thier own tube with tier name on it..

IDK...really this has me confused and doesnt make all that much sense..i only questioned it becasue the case of BNP cost me over 100.00 and i started thinking if i could use Neo it sure would have saved me alot of $$$$$$$$



Rhiann,Mia,& Oy
RIP Samson & Karma
Foster mom to:
Chloe-apx 7-9
Angel- 9
Blaze-6
Sam-6
Foremen-5
Stormin Norman-2
Dante- apx 5-6
Ole Miss P- now at the bridge- was 13 years old


my experience

When I was in college my roommates father was a pharmacist. Well girls being girls, we shared our make-up, and 3 of us ended up with red eye. My roommate called her father who told us to use... surprise, Neosporin. We did it then as he assured us it was completely safe, and the exact formula we would get with an eye perscription. I have since used this remedy in myself as well as my children, and have had NO trouble at all.

Just my two cents,
Dede

my experience

When I was in college my roommates father was a pharmacist. Well girls being girls, we shared our make-up, and 3 of us ended up with red eye. My roommate called her father who told us to use... surprise, Neosporin. We did it then as he assured us it was completely safe, and the exact formula we would get with an eye perscription. I have since used this remedy in myself as well as my children, and have had NO trouble at all.

Just my two cents,
Dede

While it may be that medicinal ingredients are the same,

the vehicle carrying them may indeed be different, thus the reference to a possible difference in pH, and the "meltability of one preparation versus the other in the limited amount of moisture in the eye, with possible uneven distribution of one preparation" and I think that "sterility" is a valid issue to be considered as well, especially if there is an ulcer in the eye versus some mild surface irritation caused by pollen allergy or dryness in the windy air.

While it may be that medicinal ingredients are the same,

the vehicle carrying them may indeed be different, thus the reference to a possible difference in pH, and the "meltability of one preparation versus the other in the limited amount of moisture in the eye, with possible uneven distribution of one preparation" and I think that "sterility" is a valid issue to be considered as well, especially if there is an ulcer in the eye versus some mild surface irritation caused by pollen allergy or dryness in the windy air.

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