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BULL DOG PREGNANCY

I HAVE A ENGLISH SHE IS MY OLDEST GIRL , SHE HAS HAD ONE LITTER ABOUT 2-1/2 YEARS AGO WICH ENDED IN A C-SECTION , WELL SHE HAS BEEN IN HEAT SEVERAL TIMES AND HAS NOT TAKEN AT ALL , I HAVE TAKEN HER TO MY VET AND HE CAN NOT FIND A THING WRONG IN THE REPRODUCTION ORGANS, I BREED A UGA BULL OFF OF THE GEORGIA MASCOT I HAVE HIS GRANDSON AND HE HAS PRODUCED SEVERAL LITTER HE IS A NATURAL BREEDER ,I AM USEING HIM TO BREED HER NOW SHE IS IN HER SECOND WEEK OF HEAT AND ,I AM TAKEING THEM TO THE VET THIS WEEK TO HAVE THEM BREED, BECAUSE I WANT A LITTER FROM THESE TWO, THEY ARE BOTH VERY SHORT MASSIVE DOGS.i AM JUST CONCERN ABOUT HER, DOES THIS HAPPEN AFTER A C-SECTION , I ALSO HAVE HER DAUGHTER FROM HER ONLY LITTER THAT IS 2 1/2 YEARS OLD AND SHE SUPRIZED US ALL THIS PAST JUNE WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE 7 PUPPIES ENDED UP WITH 10 PUPPIES ON A NATURAL BREED AND SHE HAD ALL TEN NATURAL WITHIN 3 HOURS ( SHE PUT HER MOM TO SHAME i WAS SO PROUD OF HER ) i JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAGGIE GIVE WAS ONE LITTER WITH JO-JO THE GEORGIA BULL.

isabully4u's picture

Rhiann I applaud you !!!

I couldn't agree more !!

your words sicken me......spoken like a true backyard breeder

It should never be quanity over quality.
I know your post was directed towards breeding help. But your post hit home with me. I bought my first bitch from someone like you (who took the risk in free whelping, caring about the amount of puppies they were going to get vs the quality of life the puppies/mother were going to have. That bitch is no longer living.
I also now own a sire of a litter of puppies that were bred AI. That guy figured he'd let his bitch try to birth naturaly. All of them died. That breeder was digusted and didnt want his bulldogs anymore so I rescued his male and would have taken the female had she been there.

your right...what did people do when ceasareans were not available. I will tell you what they did. THEY DIED. WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY WOMEN DIED GIVING CHILDBIRTH? The English Bulldog has changed over the last two hundred years and continues to change through strict breeding programs that better the breed. They are not as tall. They have more massive head and bone structure than in the 1800's. This bred was made by man and man must take acount in taking care of what he has created. Its called responsability and accountablilty. I really hope that you do not loose your bitch or your puppies...then again maybe it would be a blessing in disguise.

Re: GOOD LUCK, I WOULD NOT DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING

I agree. This business of breeding bulldogs should not be for the money AT ALL!!! ABSOLUTELY NO CUTTING CORNERS!!! You really can't afford to take any chances. I could never forgive myself if something happened to my dog. Only the best vet will do when my dog is having her babies.

we travel 2 hrs for a good vet. We don't take any chances

We have our date of cesarean and take her temp for a week before the due date so that we can go before if we need to.

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I HAVE BEEN BREEDING BULL FOR TEN YEARS , MAGGIE HAS A C-SECTION ON HER LITTER BUT HER DAUGHTER DID NOT GIVE US TIME TO HAVE A C-SECTION HER DUE DATE WAS ON THAT FRIDAY AND SHE STARTED INTO LABOR THAT WENDESDAY NIGHT .I WAS IN TOUCH WITH MY VET THE WHOLE TIME , SHE WAS GIVEING BIRTH , MY VET SUGGESTED TO LET HER GO SHE WAS GREAT SHE DID NOT LABOR AT ALL SHE MOVED AROUND WENT TO HER FOOD, EAT AND WENT OUT TO USE THE BATHROOM BETWEEN EACH PUPPY SHE WAS A CHAMP , EVERYONE BELEIVES THAT ENGLISH SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE C-SECTION , WHERE THAT IS NOT SO, DOG CAN PRODUCE NATURAL AND IF SHE IS A LITTLE TALLER AND HAVE A LARGER LITTER THAN MOST , IT IS REALLY BETTER ON HER . I HAVE BREED THEM BOTH WAYS AND IV BREEDS ARE LOW LITTER SIZE AND NATURAL BREED DOES MUCH BETTER I AVARGE 3-4 PUPPIES ON IV AND NATURAL BREEDS ARE AROUND 6-7 PUPPIES OR MORE. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED BEFORE C-SECTIONS ON THE ENGLISH , YES I WILL AGREE ONCE A C-SECTION ALWAYS A C-SECTION ON A BITCH CAUSE YOU KNOW SHE WILL GET STRESSED AND THATS NOT GOOD , BUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH NATURE TAKING ITS CORSE IF YOU HAVE A BITCH THAT CAN HAVE PUPPIES AND HAVE 10 AT THAT WITHIN 21/2 HOUR FROM START TO FINISH , WHY DO A SECTION ON HER IF SHE NOR THE PUPPIES ARE STRESSED..............

ickytazz's picture

you are risking your girls by natural delivery

bulldogs are for the most part breed by AI not natural, you need to have some blood drawn to see what her progesterone level is to see when she is ready to breed.

Bulldogs should have a c-section vs natural delivery, you can loose your bitch and all the puppies.


Breeding bulldogs is not cheap and cutting corners is wrong and can be very dangerous to the dogs.


vicky

Vicky, Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

Bulldog Club of Greater Seattle


I agree with everyone else, dont do a free whelp

. teh risk is high!!!!!!!! and the death of puppies and or mom is real

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ickytazz's picture

GOOD LUCK, I WOULD NOT DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING

just because you have been breeding 10 years doenst mean you do it right.


The comment on more puppies if breed natural is not always true. Cutting corners is not safe for your bitch or the puppies.

JMO

Vicky, Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

Bulldog Club of Greater Seattle


water puppies

I believe the point Helen is making is that a water puppy is not likely to be birthed naturally. The one water puppy we've had was the size of a football. If mom had tried to pass this pup naturally, the pup would have gotten stuck and we most likely would have lost both mom and the rest of the litter; particularly as we never seem to find bulldog vets proficient in C-sections any less than an hour from our home.

Sharon

Helen R. DeAmicis's picture

No one knows what causes them but what I meant was if the bitch

delivering vaginally and there is a water pup(happens a lot in our breed) it will get stuck in the birth canal and all pups behind it and the dam will die. Or if the pup is unusually large(I have had pups at times that weigh 1 1/2 lb) it may get stuck also. I would never take that chance as no one can tell that a pup is a water pup prior to birth as the bone structure is the same just the flesh is swollen with fluid.

I have never..

I have read into water puppies and never recall it saying it being related to the way the puppie was conceived or delivered. I am not a breeder either. I just like to read about stuff. I am I wrong in what I've read?

Needless to say yoyu have never had a water puppy N/M

nm

The risk is still there...

even if this dog has easy deliveries and unless you know for certain how many pups she is carrying (difficult at best to know with x-ray just before whelp) you can't be certain that she's delivered all the pups...and the cost for that one or two last pups on a "full load" will more than pay for the surgery.

Because there is the risk doesn't mean that problems happen each time...that is the difference between 'risk' and 'certainty'...we're just saying that the risk is still there for a problem. I'm glad you are following her closely with your veterinarian and are aware of signs of a problem so it can be addressed...that may reduce the risk, but a problem with the bitch can come on suddenly and may not allow time for discussion. Wishing you and her a very successful outcome.

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